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Let's continue that stupid us vs. them attitude; frankly, I'd have paid to see Freiburger and whoever his sidekick-du-jour is thrown into Corvette pit and buried after their demand that the Corvette museum let them throw their 77 corvette into the sinkhole.
Us vs them?!?!? perhaps I misunderstand that but I am not against anyone I just find C4's unworthy of being "corvettes" when I gauge them by the ones before them,
One can try to dissect it into early c4's were bad lates were great , but a c4 is a c4.
If a person loves their c4 I am happy for them.
Freiburger? is that the same Freiburger who ruined Car craft mag many years ago when he took over and tried to make it some appeal to trailer trash, like what we and our advertisers tell you to like magazine?
While the same publisher owned both Car craft and Hot rod, the editors tried to have some pseudo hatred for each other to drum up drama/sales not unlike TV Wrestling, and both rags hated vettes.
Originally Posted by SuperBuickGuy
Yes, I do - because, last time I checked, Hot Rod magazine claimed to be supportive of all American-made cars. It's funny, Corvette Forum requires that people play nice, yet the jerks always seek to find ways around it. There is a place for people like you, Yellowbullet, just not here.
A person can express their opinion and still be "playing nice" just because the next fellow has a different opinion doesn't make the first fellow a meanie or jerk,
I have tons of tastes and opinions that differ from most here..
Originally Posted by 80-Vette
The C4 body is nothing more than a glorified Camaro. Actually I like the Camaro interrior a lot better than the C4. With that said I did opt to go with C4 suspension on my 57 150.
When the c2 came out in 63 it was cutting edge, and within a few years had the same basic suspension that carried over to the c3, which was top end for a long time,
Then 30 years ago the c4 also took a step forward with it's suspension and they did make c4's by the zillion and many were allowed to just become "used cars" not old classics, so lots of rodders step up to the c4 suspension, but I wanted more from the all new vette in 84 than a Glorifed Camaro....
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Yes, I do - because, last time I checked, Hot Rod magazine claimed to be supportive of all American-made cars. It's funny, Corvette Forum requires that people play nice, yet the jerks always seek to find ways around it. There is a place for people like you, Yellowbullet, just not here.
Jesus, sounds like someone's off their Geritol again........
Yes, I do - because, last time I checked, Hot Rod magazine claimed to be supportive of all American-made cars. It's funny, Corvette Forum requires that people play nice, yet the jerks always seek to find ways around it. There is a place for people like you, Yellowbullet, just not here.
You are calling me a "jerk" because I have an opinion that differs from your own?
Classy. You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Damn guys, I only posted the video due to the fact that I found it rather humorous. They dug up a junked car and had some fun with it. Given the opportunity, spare parts, resources and time permitting I (as many others) would have done the same thing.
At this time I'm kinda regretting starting this thread, sad.
Fact is the '80s created an incredible number of dull boxy cars.
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Fact is the 80's was the last time there was a decent number of good looking cars like the C4, the third gen firebird, the 280ZX, the Celica Supra and so on. The vast majority of cars since then have been butt ugly. The only decent looking car I can think of made in the last 20 years or so is the current generation Dodge Challenger
As far as I'm concerned the C3 and C4 were the only real Corvettes, all the other generations are hideous. And the early C4's were better looking than the late C4s, particularly with regards to interior styling.
You are calling me a "jerk" because I have an opinion that differs from your own?
Classy. You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
But calling a fellow "jerk" is playing "NICE"
Originally Posted by Tod M Elliott
Damn guys, I only posted the video due to the fact that I found it rather humorous. They dug up a junked car and had some fun with it. Given the opportunity, spare parts, resources and time permitting I (as many others) would have done the same thing.
At this time I'm kinda regretting starting this thread, sad.
No it was great a c4 in c3...lol, I hope no one is taking me too serious, a little fun is needed time to time, I dig it...please dont regret.
Originally Posted by Priya
Fact is the 80's was the last time there was a decent number of good looking cars like the C4, the third gen firebird, the 280ZX, the Celica Supra and so on. The vast majority of cars since then have been butt ugly. The only decent looking car I can think of made in the last 20 years or so is the current generation Dodge Challenger
As far as I'm concerned the C3 and C4 were the only real Corvettes, all the other generations are hideous. And the early C4's were better looking than the late C4s, particularly with regards to interior styling.
I dont wanna get you all flaming on me but compared to c3 c4's are not real vettes to me, they are bulked up Camaros...sorry...
Yeah, not really seeing any similarity between a C4 and any Camaro. Now the C4 and the third gen Firebird, there's some similarity. But the third gen Firebird was one of the best looking cars ever made, ranking right up there with the C3.
No sarcasm. The third gen firebird is one of the top ten best looking cars of all time.
No smartassing but if you think so why the 79 vette why not a 3rd gen bird?
Does the c3 rate higher than the bird?
My main issue with 3rd gen Camaros and Birds is they were junk, I had the pace car should have been a jewel it was a turd in too many ways....I swapped it for a 81 vette couldnt have been happier...
Actually for me it was a bit of a close call between the 79 Corvette and the third gen firebird. I like those firebirds a lot. If I had to pick a deciding factor I'd say it was the fiberglass body of the Corvette, lot less of a rust problem. And I'd say the third gen Firebird is quite a bit better looking than a C4. The C4 is a good looking car but not a great looking car.
When the c2 came out in 63 it was cutting edge, and within a few years had the same basic suspension that carried over to the c3, which was top end for a long time,
Then 30 years ago the c4 also took a step forward with it's suspension and they did make c4's by the zillion and many were allowed to just become "used cars" not old classics, so lots of rodders step up to the c4 suspension, but I wanted more from the all new vette in 84 than a Glorifed Camaro....
I totally agree. The C4 suspension is awesome and sacrificing a C4 was a simple affordable option. I would have had a problem doing the same to a C3 even if the birdcage was rusted. That is almost Un-American in my opinion.
Fact is the 80's was the last time there was a decent number of good looking cars like the C4, the third gen firebird, the 280ZX, the Celica Supra and so on. The vast majority of cars since then have been butt ugly. The only decent looking car I can think of made in the last 20 years or so is the current generation Dodge Challenger
As far as I'm concerned the C3 and C4 were the only real Corvettes, all the other generations are hideous. And the early C4's were better looking than the late C4s, particularly with regards to interior styling.
It's interesting to me how peoples tastes differ.... Industrial/automotive design like everything else is a fashion industry, and what people like/ don't like greatly depends on what they have been presented with before. My 77 is older than I am, but sence I grew up around my families old cars, my tastes skew from the 1920's to the the late 60's. When I was looking for a C3, the first one I looked at was a 79 and the dash reminded me very much of my third-gen Camaro...I like the dash in my 77 /much/ better. C4's have never really don't much for me either but I put my old 255/60/15's on that parts car I drug home and it almost looked bad-@$$
The human brain as an affinity for natural 'S' curves (like a woman) and razor strait lines in design. The real trick is how to use those in a way that won't come out like a Pontiac Aztec
Originally Posted by 80-Vette
I purchased a custom front clip specifically designed and built for the trifive to convert to C4 suspension. I have not done the rear yet.
Oh, cool. I have the suspension but have not started the project yet to see how I want to get it set up.
You know with a mix of lore and myth tied in with some less than stellar choices made by GM, showed this was going to be the 83 corvette, and all kinds of BS later that I will not get into this "new" vette was nixed, the 83 year shot ( no vette in 83 ) and the 84 as we know it was the car they fell back on, I believe that the c4 as we know it was a second option...that makes sense.
That C3 concept car has potential but I think it needed to have a straight line along the front leading edge and more of a C4 style tail, something like this AMC concept car which I think is perhaps the best looking car never made:
That C3 concept car has potential but I think it needed to have a straight line along the front leading edge and more of a C4 style tail, something like this AMC concept car which I think is perhaps the best looking car never made:
That AMC is a good looking car but looks like a stylish rip of one of my favs the Pantera, which might happen in 2015 who knows.
The C4 body is nothing more than a glorified Camaro. Actually I like the Camaro interrior a lot better than the C4. With that said I did opt to go with C4 suspension on my 57 150.
Don't be silly; that must be sarcasm. 
