Pro Touring C3s
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Melting Slicks
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From: Niles, MI
BubbaHut
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2020 C5 of the Year Finalist - Modified
Ohio Muscle Car
I think they have me listed as 10th with 2:25 ? A math glitch I guess.
It was an awesome event....
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I wasnt arguing at all,
I assume you directed that at me because I said I believe each person will decide for themselves what "pro touring" means, things posted on web sites are just some cats opinion I can have mine you can have yours, but if that all you got from my post and this thread, that is a bit sad,
You didnt add anything about pro touring...do you like the cars, hate the cars dont care either way?
I assume you directed that at me because I said I believe each person will decide for themselves what "pro touring" means, things posted on web sites are just some cats opinion I can have mine you can have yours, but if that all you got from my post and this thread, that is a bit sad,
You didnt add anything about pro touring...do you like the cars, hate the cars dont care either way?
You are completely entitled to your opinion, although I disagree with some of it.
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From: Eustis ( Area 51 Bat Cave ) Fl
I am not sure why I have seen a trend on the forum of some people getting really butt chapped if someone doesnt agree with them 100%
The only point I was making is I do my own thinking if the next cat want to let someone tell him what this or that means that is fine just not my way, but I sure do not get all butt hurt if someone thinks for themselves and disgrees with me....
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From: NYC NY
I built mine around the "original" pro touring idea...think of cars like "big red" or Mark Stielow's "mule". That is older cars with upgardes to enhance performance, so less weight, bigger wheels/tires, engines, transmissions, brakes, suspension, aero mods ,etc. Its where function came first, not the bling. Over the past 7 or 8 years the big "hot rod" shops jumped on the band wagon and started producing these billet aluminum and chrome encrosted blingy muscle cars with oversize wheels that they label pro-touring but are far from what it started as.
and I'll also add if you get MAVtv (810 on Verizon) whatch the "Optima Search for the Ultimate Street Car" which has Detroit Speed's "test cars" that are over built for performance but lack bling IMCO and see how well they perform against some late model rides.
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You didnt add to the treads topic just tossed bread on the water for mullet to jump,
I am not sure why I have seen a trend on the forum of some people getting really butt chapped if someone doesnt agree with them 100%
The only point I was making is I do my own thinking if the next cat want to let someone tell him what this or that means that is fine just not my way, but I sure do not get all butt hurt if someone thinks for themselves and disgrees with me....
I am not sure why I have seen a trend on the forum of some people getting really butt chapped if someone doesnt agree with them 100%
The only point I was making is I do my own thinking if the next cat want to let someone tell him what this or that means that is fine just not my way, but I sure do not get all butt hurt if someone thinks for themselves and disgrees with me....
Lets not hijack the thread any further.
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From: Eustis ( Area 51 Bat Cave ) Fl
And YOU are the one who started with the off topic posts high jacking the thread and still dragging it out so if YOU have it out of your system the rest of us talking about cars can move on....
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................................................................Got this from Pro-Touring .com
Pro-Touring: A classic muscle car with upgraded and updated suspension components, brake system, drive train and aesthetics, including many of the creature comforts of a new car. Built to function as well or better than some of today’s best performance cars. Pro-Touring cars are built to be driven. Driven on the street, on the race track, on the drag strip, through cones at an auto-cross, no matter the setting, pro-touring cars are meant to be driven. [Generally speaking, late model cars are not considered pro-touring due to their factory designed suspension and brake packages.]
g-Machine: [once considered to mean the same thing as pro-touring, the term has now evolved to mean a slightly less refined pro-touring car] A classic muscle car with upgraded and updated suspension, brakes, drive train and aesthetics, generally lacking some of the creature comforts one would find in a pro-touring car, such as cup-holders, leather seats, etc., otherwise identical to a pro-touring car.
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I just can't get enough of Danny Popp's car!
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From: Eustis ( Area 51 Bat Cave ) Fl
Richard,
I like this car a lot too,
But does it "need" the wing most c3 racers do not run them
Safety Car
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But does it "need" the wing most c3 racers do not run them
[/QUOTE]Its about aero balance, looking at the front with the large air dam and splitter, there's a ton of downforce there, so you would need something equally as effective on the rear to "balance" the car out. It's personal taste at some point as well...I was considering a C6r/7r style wing, but went with a taller blade rear spoiler and a diffuser instead (and for the haters...no I haven't put it in a wind tunnel to test the effectiveness)
Pro
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Ok, I'll bite on this. I'm in the process of building mine, which I guess you could say, based on some of the definitions provided, that it is a pro-touring car. 
Some of the modifications - Complete suspension rebuild with Vansteel, QA01 COs, strut rods, sways, Borgeson PS box, rebuilt 454 etc.
Some of the modifications - Complete suspension rebuild with Vansteel, QA01 COs, strut rods, sways, Borgeson PS box, rebuilt 454 etc.
Melting Slicks
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