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What a pain in the butt! I read before they screw holes don't match up to the mounting brackets on the upper dash pad, well they don't! but that's not my problem, I'm getting that worked out... My problem is I have a couple of the screws pulling through the vinyl on the lower dash pads, is there a cure for that, maybe different screws with the bigger countersunk washers (if that's what they're called)...
I hope Ernie doesn't mind me using his website as a demo but here's the screws I'm talking about:
I just replaced mine. There were small metal inserts in my originals that I had to remove and put in the replacements. I will see if I can find an old one and post a picture.
Last edited by HT1663WB; Oct 27, 2015 at 08:11 AM.
Hi AS,
You really DO need to use the screws with the collars for the 3 screws across the top of the lower dash pads to prevent the screw-heads from gripping the vinyl and making a hole rather than pulling the pad tight against the upper pads.
You also need to make sure the 'collars' are free to spin on the screws before you start each screw. Sometimes the collar is slightly deformed and won't spin. I gently re-shape it with a pliers.
Installing the dash pads and gauges/consoles is very tedious work!
Good luck!
Regards,
Alan
The 7 screws for each 71 lower dash pad. The3 collars painted pad color so you don't see them when installed.
Hi AS,
You really DO need to use the screws with the collars for the 3 screws across the top of the lower dash pads to prevent the screw-heads from gripping the vinyl and making a hole rather than pulling the pad tight against the upper pads.
You also need to make sure the 'collars' are free to spin on the screws before you start each screw. Sometimes the collar is slightly deformed and won't spin. I gently re-shape it with a pliers.
Installing the dash pads and gauges/consoles is very tedious work!
Good luck!
Regards,
Alan
The 7 screws for each 71 lower dash pad.
Alan,those collars on the three middle screws are what I removed from my old dash panels.
Hi HT,
You posted while I was finding my picture!
I really think the new screws for that dash application come with the collars… at least some of them do.
Often when the original screws are removed from the old pads the collars remain embedded in the vinyl and need to be pulled out and put back on the screws.
The screws do generally tear through the vinyl without them.
Regards,
Alan
thanks guys, I do have new screws that have the collars on the. My problem is that when I tighten them enough to pull the dash pad tight one on each side decided it wanted to sink itself into the vinyl around the edge of it and the screw hole (if that makes sense). I had hoped that perhaps there was a larger collar I could get or any suggestions on how to fix the vinyl with glue or something as I believe the big problem is that it's pulled itself away from the foam padding under it and allows the collar to get under it...
Hi AS,
It's difficult to say what's going on without seeing what you're facing.
I will say though that you need to have the pads fit tightly WITHOUT the screws in place…. the screws should just SECURE the pad in place, NOT be used to PULL the pad into place.
I'm NOT saying it's easy, but only that that's what I learned. The 3 pads and center cluster are a NASTY job to have turn out well!
???
Regards,
Alan
thanks guys, I do have new screws that have the collars on the. My problem is that when I tighten them enough to pull the dash pad tight one on each side decided it wanted to sink itself into the vinyl around the edge of it and the screw hole (if that makes sense). I had hoped that perhaps there was a larger collar I could get or any suggestions on how to fix the vinyl with glue or something as I believe the big problem is that it's pulled itself away from the foam padding under it and allows the collar to get under it...
My .02 from dealing with this, try using a plastic dry wall anchor cut down to size underneath the collar. You can even glue it in and let it set. The screw will tighten just fine and you will not see it at all. They come in various sizes and colors. The yellow ones, worked great on my completely ho'd out dash.
Hi AS,
It's difficult to say what's going on without seeing what you're facing.
I will say though that you need to have the pads fit tightly WITHOUT the screws in place…. the screws should just SECURE the pad in place, NOT be used to PULL the pad into place.
I'm NOT saying it's easy, but only that that's what I learned. The 3 pads and center cluster are a NASTY job to have turn out well!
???
Regards,
Alan
Thanks Alan, I was learning as I was installing. It sure would have been nice if they would actually fit tight to begin with. I had to trim a piece off the inside of the driver lower pad, you'll never see it, to get it to pull in tight otherwise it was sticking way out, now it's at least acceptable. The new pads sure look great but fit isn't as good. I guess it could be worse so I'm trying not to complain too much
Originally Posted by F22
My .02 from dealing with this, try using a plastic dry wall anchor cut down to size underneath the collar. You can even glue it in and let it set. The screw will tighten just fine and you will not see it at all. They come in various sizes and colors. The yellow ones, worked great on my completely ho'd out dash.
Great idea F22, thanks, I'll get myself to lowe's and pick some up I just want this job finished, hopefully I'll have her done by Sunday...