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Old Apr 19, 2016 | 09:20 PM
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Just checking to see if others think this is just surface rust and is reasonable for a 78' with 40,000.
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Hard to tell from that one pic how bad the surface rust is as well as the inside of the frame....Both need to be checked. If I was in the market for a 77 and saw that frame I would pass unless I was looking for a cheap project car....JMO

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My 78 has 126,000 and the underside looks nothing like that. You need to get better pictures and if you can you need to get up close and personal. Feel around the frame for any lose pieces, holes, soft spots. How do the drive shafts look? Are they covered in rust?
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My 78 has 126,000 and the underside looks nothing like that. You need to get better pictures and if you can you need to get up close and personal. Feel around the frame for any lose pieces, holes, soft spots. How do the drive shafts look? Are they covered in rust?
The car is in Virgina and I'm in MN guy sent several picture of undercarriage just trying to figure out how to post them all for you to look at
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My 78 has 126,000 and the underside looks nothing like that. You need to get better pictures and if you can you need to get up close and personal. Feel around the frame for any lose pieces, holes, soft spots. How do the drive shafts look? Are they covered in rust?
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Just checking to see if others think this is just surface rust and is reasonable for a 78' with 40,000.
Thank you for your comments and checking out the pictures
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Old Apr 20, 2016 | 01:24 AM
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I bet its at least 140k
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Originally Posted by Seeker95
Just checking to see if others think this is just surface rust and is reasonable for a 78' with 40,000.
Hey S. Is it an L48 with four-speed?

It could very well be 40k miles but neglected...meaning sitting out a lot which would contribute to frame that has spotty rust. The frame rails look like they still have some finish remaining though much eroded. The front cross members look the worse...I would be curious what the rear looks like.
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What you've posted pictures of looks okay, but pictures can be deceiving. I have to agree with others, that it looks pretty tired for "only" 40,000 miles though. From what can be seen of the floor pans, they appear to be solid, which is always a plus on 76-82's.

It looks like the car has been repainted, or at least had some paint work done. Is it the original color?

It's nice that the seller sent you a pictures of where he hides his spare key!
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Originally Posted by gbvette62
...What you've posted pictures of looks okay...
I don't see a deal breaker.

...but pictures can be deceiving...
True. Won't hurt to give it a good going over.

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Originally Posted by Seeker95
The car is in Virgina and I'm in MN guy sent several picture of undercarriage just trying to figure out how to post them all for you to look at
.....which means it MAY have spent time along the coastline, and been near salty air, which caused the rust. However, having said that, I live in the snow belt, and if the car had been driven through a couple of winters, the road salt would have made it look a LOT worse. Also, as mentioned, the floor pans didn't look too bad.


I think a bigger question might be, how do the windshield frame and "birdcage" look? While replacing a frame isn't something you'd WANT to do, it's far easier that trying to repair/replace a bad birdcage....
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Great responses. Yeah it's a manual and not sure about the repaint. Living in Mn I have seen cars up on a lift and after a few years of road salt it has a similar look which got me concerned. I included a photo of back end, not sure what to tell the guy but I sent a email mentioning some of the concerns you guys have mentioned.
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And yes an L48
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Doesn't look terrible, but could easily be hiding worse. Mine looks a lot better with 106,000 miles (I'm guessing, certainly not 6,000, doubt it's 206,000).
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I'am gonna bet that its 140k not 40k, but like others have said I'd want to know the condition of the birdcage.

Also, my money is on it being repainted. You can see the overspray on the license plate light cover. So at least part of the rear has been resprayed. I wouldn't care as much other than to know if its been hit.
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So the question now is how much does the owner want?
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Is there a reason you're so set on a car half way across the county? You should really go check out the car before you buy.
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Generally the back of the frame looks better than the front, which is the opposite of my '77. Just based on the photos that frame looks pretty decent. See if you can get someone near the car to look at it for you that knows them well. A little money spent now could save you a lot of money down the line. Good luck whatever you decide!
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so the question now is how much does the owner want?
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