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Old Aug 14, 2016 | 01:22 PM
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This Friday when driving, my engine got up to around 225 on the highway. Is there something I can do to help keep it cooler?

I haven't had any trouble keeping it cool (180-190 F) driving around town or idling, it's just when I get up to highway speeds and sustained higher engine speeds (3000 rpm) that the temperature creeps up.

Any advice is appreciated and let me know if you need any more information to help
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Old Aug 14, 2016 | 01:29 PM
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Is your air dam installed?
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Nope. I guess that is the next thing I need to get. Does the air dam make that much of a difference?
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The faster you go, the more it does.
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Yes!! It will run ok on side streets, once you start to go fast, on freeways, or long stretches of road car will start yo run hot. I know that the air dam makes a big difference. You also need to make sure that the seals are properly installed around radiator. Put on the sir dam, before you do anything else.
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Originally Posted by D_Williams
Nope. I guess that is the next thing I need to get. Does the air dam make that much of a difference?
YOU BETCHA it does. Any help to getting more air into the radiator..the better you are,

Surprisingly...GM moved the front license plate on the A/C and big block equipped mid-years to under the left bumper instead of in the front center like they did for the regular small blocks.

Like 'Cooter Tech' mentioned ... hopefully all of your foam seals between the radiator and support and shroud and radiator and under hood seals are also still intact...because they also help

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1970 454

This Friday when driving, my engine got up to around 225 on the highway. Is there something I can do to help keep it cooler?

I haven't had any trouble keeping it cool (180-190 F) driving around town or idling, it's just when I get up to highway speeds and sustained higher engine speeds (3000 rpm) that the temperature creeps up.

Any advice is appreciated and let me know if you need any more information to help
I am curious has it always done this or just started,
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I am curious has it always done this or just started,
I've had it for about a year now and it's happened a couple times, but it only got up to 210 or a little higher before. I'm not sure if it this was just the hottest time I've driven which caused it to get up there.

I made sure to top off the coolant (about 6 months since I replaced it) and my oil was good (< 1 month old), so it's probably just a combination of hot temperatures and poor air flow (because I don't have my air dam installed yet)
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Originally Posted by D_Williams
Nope. I guess that is the next thing I need to get. Does the air dam make that much of a difference?
As others have stated, the air dam does make a different. On mine, when I'm at 70mph the temperature drops like a rock!
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Originally Posted by 1974CorvetteJimCr
As others have stated, the air dam does make a different. On mine, when I'm at 70mph the temperature drops like a rock!
That's good news! Luckily I haven't had any cooling problems around town, so adding the air dam and double checking that I have the radiator seals should do the trick
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I asked because I have seen things start to go out that can cause this type symptoms, like water pump impellor worn, and on my 66 it was a modded daily driver so all bets off on seals and air damn stuff, one day all cools well the next on a trip to see my dad the temps starts creeping up the faster I go, and I couldn't go past about 45-50 I limp to my dads and he being a navy tech jumps on it, turns out that my radiator was bad, looked okay but was all plugged up and had gotten worse over time, this was 15-18 years ago and I just installed a parts store replacement and it was cooler than ever so while all the seals and air damns and stuff have a purpose they are not the only thing that can cause this....
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Originally Posted by The13Bats
I asked because I have seen things start to go out that can cause this type symptoms, like water pump impellor worn, and on my 66 it was a modded daily driver so all bets off on seals and air damn stuff, one day all cools well the next on a trip to see my dad the temps starts creeping up the faster I go, and I couldn't go past about 45-50 I limp to my dads and he being a navy tech jumps on it, turns out that my radiator was bad, looked okay but was all plugged up and had gotten worse over time, this was 15-18 years ago and I just installed a parts store replacement and it was cooler than ever so while all the seals and air damns and stuff have a purpose they are not the only thing that can cause this....
Thanks for the tip! I'll keep an eye on the temperature after I install the air dam. Are there other symptoms of a plugged radiator besides overheating?
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Thanks for the tip! I'll keep an eye on the temperature after I install the air dam. Are there other symptoms of a plugged radiator besides overheating?
for me it was just that overheating under load/speed it was a 327 350 engine so kind of radical-ish , I would guess as it got worse then I would have had issues at low speeds and idle too,

In my case we cut open the old radiator and it was all kinds of weird detritus in it, no way to know how old it was.
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Lots of possible reasons for overheating at speed, but the two with the highest likelihood are:

1. Missing air dam on front valence (directs air up and into the radiator);

2. Deteriorated or missing anti-collapse spring in the lower (suction) radiator hose. If suction-side hose collapses under high-speed pump demand, radiator flow will be greatly reduced.

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Originally Posted by 7T1vette
Lots of possible reasons for overheating at speed, but the two with the highest likelihood are:

1. Missing air dam on front valence (directs air up and into the radiator);

2. Deteriorated or missing anti-collapse spring in the lower (suction) radiator hose. If suction-side hose collapses under high-speed pump demand, radiator flow will be greatly reduced.


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I would also check the centrifugal and vacuum advance to make sure they are working properly.
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