The right interior black..68 model
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The right interior black..68 model
Hi,
In the interests of period correctness... Can anyone tell me which metal interior parts should be 'Matt black' vs 'satin black'?
Eg; wiper bezel plate... I can see loads of 'original' parts which appear to be chipped/dented satin black... But then ask see some Matt black ones.. Similarly, the repro console parts (eg shifter plates) look Matt black... But the 'original' parts sometimes look like they are faded satin black?
Many thanks for thoughts!
Dave
In the interests of period correctness... Can anyone tell me which metal interior parts should be 'Matt black' vs 'satin black'?
Eg; wiper bezel plate... I can see loads of 'original' parts which appear to be chipped/dented satin black... But then ask see some Matt black ones.. Similarly, the repro console parts (eg shifter plates) look Matt black... But the 'original' parts sometimes look like they are faded satin black?
Many thanks for thoughts!
Dave
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Hi Dave,
I believe only one black paint was used in 68-72 interiors.
I describe it as semi-flat black.
There are various sources for the paint… the larger vendors sell it and a company called SEMS produces a black interior paint that many people like.
I think the apparent differences in the degree of glossiness seen in interiors has to do with the material being painted… metal, plastic, vinyl…. and the amount and method used when the paint applied.
Regards,
Alan
I believe only one black paint was used in 68-72 interiors.
I describe it as semi-flat black.
There are various sources for the paint… the larger vendors sell it and a company called SEMS produces a black interior paint that many people like.
I think the apparent differences in the degree of glossiness seen in interiors has to do with the material being painted… metal, plastic, vinyl…. and the amount and method used when the paint applied.
Regards,
Alan
Last edited by Alan 71; Sep 21, 2016 at 05:29 PM.
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Hi,
In the interests of period correctness... Can anyone tell me which metal interior parts should be 'Matt black' vs 'satin black'?
Eg; wiper bezel plate... I can see loads of 'original' parts which appear to be chipped/dented satin black... But then ask see some Matt black ones.. Similarly, the repro console parts (eg shifter plates) look Matt black... But the 'original' parts sometimes look like they are faded satin black?
Many thanks for thoughts!
Dave
In the interests of period correctness... Can anyone tell me which metal interior parts should be 'Matt black' vs 'satin black'?
Eg; wiper bezel plate... I can see loads of 'original' parts which appear to be chipped/dented satin black... But then ask see some Matt black ones.. Similarly, the repro console parts (eg shifter plates) look Matt black... But the 'original' parts sometimes look like they are faded satin black?
Many thanks for thoughts!
Dave
As Alan said, pretty much one standard paint used for all the parts in the interior. Krylon 1613 works well. It is a semi-flat paint. Make sure you find the older version available. It has 5 colored circles on the label. Take care. John
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There were never any "matte black" interior parts on any C3's. Many of the interior parts were painted semi-flat [or satin] black, as were the wheelwells, engine compartment surfaces, rocker panel stripe and other things which had black 'trim' paint.
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I had a goody package arrive from ecklers yesterday, which contained, among other things, a shift pattern template - which looks distinctly Matt black to me! Is this indicative of the colour that everything should be, or ?
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Hi DV,
As I said in my post…..
"I think the apparent differences in the degree of glossiness seen in original interiors has to do with the material being painted… metal, plastic, vinyl…. and the amount and method used when the paint applied."
All painted parts didn't have the same degree of glossiness.
For example the shifter console plate is paint over chrome plating while the parking brake console is paint over plastic.
No primer of any sort was used and minimal paint was applied.
Regards,
Alan
As I said in my post…..
"I think the apparent differences in the degree of glossiness seen in original interiors has to do with the material being painted… metal, plastic, vinyl…. and the amount and method used when the paint applied."
All painted parts didn't have the same degree of glossiness.
For example the shifter console plate is paint over chrome plating while the parking brake console is paint over plastic.
No primer of any sort was used and minimal paint was applied.
Regards,
Alan
Last edited by Alan 71; Sep 22, 2016 at 02:39 PM.
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Hi D,
No, OCD is a very good condition to have when working on an old Corvette, because the faint of heart will find lots of reasons to bail on an involved project.
OCD helps in keeping you coming back for more!
Regards,
Alan
No, OCD is a very good condition to have when working on an old Corvette, because the faint of heart will find lots of reasons to bail on an involved project.
OCD helps in keeping you coming back for more!
Regards,
Alan
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To be clear, Alan71 is not OCD. He is CDO...because those letter MUST be in alphabetical order. 
[meant as 'friendly' humor, Alan...]
Alan does spectacular work; and he takes spectacular...and voluminous...photos. This Forum and those who frequent it are privileged to be recipients of his posts.
[meant as 'friendly' humor, Alan...]
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You should consider choosing a semi-flat black available to you and staying with it.
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Krylon semi-flat paint seems to be getting more difficult to find; and I have had problems with it in the past appearing to be more 'semi-gloss' than 'semi-flat'.
I tried the John Deere "Blitz black" paint a couple of years ago and have used that exclusively since. The paint shoots better, it is just as good a match to the original color/sheen as the Krylon paint (when it comes out as in past years), it seems to be more durable, and I can get it at any John Deere sales/outlet store. It's also a larger can with more paint for about the same money. Just my .02 on this issue...
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Vinyl paint?
Hello again!
next evolution of the right black q...
looking at rustoleum vinyl paint for targa panels, inner rough etc... but it comes in gloss and matt!
any suggestions as to which is more authentic?
ta
next evolution of the right black q...
looking at rustoleum vinyl paint for targa panels, inner rough etc... but it comes in gloss and matt!
any suggestions as to which is more authentic?
ta
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If there is an automotive paint outlet near you, see if they carry SEM automotive interior dye.
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Hi david,
Mike's right that the SEM vinyl dye product in semi-flat is a good choice.
You want to be meticulous in preparing the surface for the dye and use no more than is necessary to get coverage.
Regards,
Alan
Mike's right that the SEM vinyl dye product in semi-flat is a good choice.
You want to be meticulous in preparing the surface for the dye and use no more than is necessary to get coverage.
Regards,
Alan
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Hi,
In the interests of period correctness... Can anyone tell me which metal interior parts should be 'Matt black' vs 'satin black'?
Eg; wiper bezel plate... I can see loads of 'original' parts which appear to be chipped/dented satin black... But then ask see some Matt black ones.. Similarly, the repro console parts (eg shifter plates) look Matt black... But the 'original' parts sometimes look like they are faded satin black?
Many thanks for thoughts!
Dave
In the interests of period correctness... Can anyone tell me which metal interior parts should be 'Matt black' vs 'satin black'?
Eg; wiper bezel plate... I can see loads of 'original' parts which appear to be chipped/dented satin black... But then ask see some Matt black ones.. Similarly, the repro console parts (eg shifter plates) look Matt black... But the 'original' parts sometimes look like they are faded satin black?
Many thanks for thoughts!
Dave
I found this to be the best for interior
Wes
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If you are recoloring plastic interior parts that can flex, you do not want to use 'paint'. You want to use a 'dye' which is paint with an elastomer added so the paint can flex. SEM makes interior dye. SEM also makes Trim Paint...which is not dye. If you are recoloring 'hard' parts (metal/plastic which do not flex), Trim Paint is a good choice [as is Krylon semi-flat or John Deere 'Blitz' black (satin)]. You can also recolor hard parts with dye; but it won't be quite as durable as paint.
Last edited by 7T1vette; Dec 9, 2016 at 11:50 PM.