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Old 11-25-2016, 03:19 PM
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Looking forward to following your thread! I have a 1970 as well.
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Hi c,
In looking at your photos I realized your car APPEARS to still have it's original (?) front grills.
The grills for 70 were one year only. They are held in place with concealed studs rather than visible screws as in 71-72.
It's pretty easy to break these studs when removing the nuts from them….so be VERY careful!
70 grills with all their studs and in good condition bring serious money!
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Just going to keep an eye on this one.

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The fastener set for the upper alternator brace used an unusually thick flat washer.
It's purpose is to withstand the tendency of a regular flat washer to deform into the slot in the bracket when the bolt is tightened.
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All sorts of little details to be aware of if someone is interested in that sort of thing.
Just discovered the frame number # 3974601-101 , Would I be correct in stating this from A.O. Smith/Milwaukee Plant ?


Frame number 3974601-101

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The shielding appears to be original as the box shield has the two screws on the side.

That is a nice piece to have and can be hard to find. Note that the small tab on the side shields goes underneath the top shield when you reassemble.

I am looking forward to following your progress as a fellow 70 owner.

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Found out just now the story behind the numbers for the leaf spring I have/ Long story but if one queries this on NCRS.org. It will be explained in a shorter version than I could give someone

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Old 11-26-2016, 12:30 AM
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looks to be mulsanne blue, am I right? Note: the parking lights in front are wrong color as 70 only used clear lens and bulbs were yellow. I have 70 Lt-1 same color, black interior and rack, original car throughout. good luck, I hope to do my car next year. This is my 4th 70 since 1973.

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looks to be mulsanne blue, am I right? Note: the parking lights in front are wrong color as 70 only used clear lens and bulbs were yellow. I have 70 Lt-1 same color, black interior and rack, original car throughout. good luck, I hope to do my car next year. This is my 4th 70 since 1973.
It's Bridgehampton Blue/Black interior. Your correct on the turn signal lens for whatever reason the previous owner installed amber from 71. I may change those out at some point.
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Hi c,
Some very careful cleaning MAY disclose a production date for the frame right above the part number. I think I can see hints of it in the photo.
I'm not familiar with a part number on the spring leaf. It seams very 'vivid'… maybe a replacement?
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Something like this from my mid January 71. (Car is upside down)
I'd think the 67 day strike in the Fall of 70 may have contributed to the almost 3 month span from when this frame was made until it ended up in a car?


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Some very careful cleaning MAY disclose a production date for the frame right above the part number.
I'm not familiar with a part number on the spring leaf. It seams very 'vivid'… maybe a replacement?
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Something like this from my mid January 71. (Car is upside down)
I'd think the 67 day strike in the Fall of 70 may have contributed to the almost 3 month span from when this frame was made until it ended up in a car?

Your correct on the leaf spring, GM discontinued the old unit and replaced with what I've posted. I googled the # and NCRS had my answer. Gotta love the internet .
I used mild soap and a soft tooth brush ( my wife's ), look forward to discovering more. I'm going to bet it will be a March date, just because of the other #'s reflecting March for production.
I take it your #'s reflect a 1971/Manual/A.O. Smith, Milwaukee, WI. plant production ?
Thank You once again Alan for your input, much appreciated.

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Some photos for what it's worth. I'm waiting for jack stands from myliftstand.com before I can really access the undercarriage.


Coil Spring with sticker, yet to know numbers



Key hole is still solid



Just a rear end shot of shock/break area
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Your correct on the leaf spring, GM discontinued the old unit and replaced with what I've posted. I googled the # and NCRS had my answer. Gotta love the internet .
I used mild soap and a soft tooth brush ( my wife's ), look forward to discovering more. I'm going to bet it will be a March date, just because of the other #'s reflecting March for production.
I take it your #'s reflect a 1971/Manual/A.O. Smith, Milwaukee, WI. plant production ?
Thank You once again Alan for your input, much appreciated.
Just a follow up to everything I've posted. The fella who's family owned the car for the last 44yrs started to do a bit of restoration/repair and had hoped to do the complete car at some point, but job/life would not allow it to happen for him.
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Hi c,
The kind of photos you're taking and posting are what many people find interesting.
For instance:
Thinking the coil spring and tag may be original and noting the tail of the tag is tucked into the spring.
The short brake line on the trailing arm doesn't have any spiral armor on it.
Regards,
Alan

I see the rocker trim is off the car now…. did the trim have 'tabs' near their forward end for a screw that went up vertically… not horizontally like the rest?

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Hi c,
The kind of photos you're taking and posting are what many people find interesting.
For instance:
Thinking the coil spring and tag may be original and noting the tail of the tag is tucked into the spring.
The short brake line on the trailing arm doesn't have any spiral armor on it.
Regards,
Alan

I see the rocker trim is off the car now…. did the trim have 'tabs' near their forward end for a screw that went up vertically… not horizontally like the rest?
The rocker trim did indeed have the vertical screw. #3936367-8 I think ?
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What I see in this photo....not that it matters...

Because someone has been in this area and it is not virgin. Which is to be expected.

1.) There are no french locks for the inner u-joint flange. Looks like the typical lock washers used when soemone does not invest in new french locks.

2.) Brake caliper does not look original. Too shiny almost like it has been flash plated like I have seen calipers were done many years ago.

3.) The nut for the upper shock absorber mount area looks too thick and has been replaced. Which raises concern on the bolt itself due to being specific.

4.) Looks like two washers (instaed of one) at the top of the rear leaf spring bolt in the trailing arm.

So far it looks like this car is being caught at the right time. I did a 1970 that looked much like this and when it was done...it really cleaned up really really well.

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DUB, I thank you immensely for your input. I'm going to learn a lot durning this project. I'll keep posting pictures and asking questions, you my friend keep inspecting and answering
I'm all ears.



A French Lock ! I'll be damned.

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Not much to comment on here. The caliper has obviously been replaced.

From the camera angle..I can not tell if the lower ball joint has been replaced or if the factory rivets are still in place.

I know it is a power steering car due to where the tie-rod end is installed. ( and I can see the P/S belt in one of your earlier photos...second photo in POST#25)

Paint/ink markings on the spindle still are there....for whatever that is worth to some people.

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DUB, with the holidays season upon us I know I won't be able to get as deep into my project as I had hoped. My pictures to date are so,so but what you've picked up is very helpful.
Stay tuned for future pic's and questions I really do appreciate it.
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Will do.

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