Never should have sold this car^^^^^^^^^^
Kicking myself

 

Had you posted that earlier in the thread, I suspect some of the comments would have been different. A lot of people can't relate to the high end side of this hobby.
Obviously you have "been there..done that", so you know better than anyone what you value that car at now, and with your future modifications to make it your own.

The C3 is beautiful, if it floats your boat, by all means buy it, enjoy it, and don't look back.
Good luck!

 

Personally I think the C3 looks better, everyone has C2s which makes that C3 even more unique.

 

A little late but based on the C2 you just posted it's really not hard to put 100K in a build when you're paying for custom work. IMCO which is really not worth anything if you like the body and paint and are OK with the interior it's really not hard to realize the body and interior alone could have soaked up 50K or more. With that said what is the rest of the car worth to you not us another 10K? If you bought the car somewhere in the 60K area would that be the end of the world? If you did I would suggest you don't go crazy with some LSx/6 speed but rather redo the big block with EFI and a 5 or 6 speed depending on what rear is in the car. Redo the engine bay to bring it up to the level of the rest of the car and by all means get rid of those side pipes. If the suspension needs to be done go with a package from VB&P or Van Steel and call it a day. You'll still wind up with probably 80K in the car but could you build it to your standards for less? That's the real bottom line not what we think it's worth. Good luck in what ever you decide to do.

 

I agree with the C3 comment. Just not that many to choose from, unlike C1 and C2's. I've never owned a C3 but I sure like the chrome bumper ones. So all in all I supposed I answered my own question of what it's worth as my final offer is 65k.


As for my former 67 restomod. Couldn't drive it. It was an absolutely beautiful car just not driveable. It was a Downs body on a Jamison frame with a twin turbo 383. The problem was the way it was built the seats were stationary....they wouldn't slide. I'm 6 foot and the cockpit was very cramped. I had to tilt my head several inches to the side cause it would hit the roof and leg position was very uncomfortable.


It would be a perfect driver for someone 5'5 and shorter.

 

SOB....he accepted my offer and I bought it Should have offered 60K. Oh well.


Next question guys.....Who can I get to go do a pre-inspection of the car in South Florida and give me the thumbs up and go a head to fly out and see it myself?

 

Decided I'll fly there and check it out with my own eyes. Hope its everything he says it is.

 

Man that's great news, Congrats!

 

That's cool looking. I do hate the engine bay. I'd go back to chrome with an aluminum intake and EFI.

 

I don't know guys. I spoke with him today to see if its works for him for me to come out next Saturday and inspect the car. It didn't as he will be out of town.


We started talking more about the car and a major question I had was suspension mods. He really didn't know what was done other than when the car was finished it didn't brake properly, no PS and it was bumpey...his words. He said he had mods done like PS and large brakes but doesn't really know what else. He did say no elaborate susp was put on but everything is new.


Then he said within the last year (his words) he put 15 to 20k in mechanical upgrades but what he said did not really make sense for that kind of money. He really didn't know what was done but he "thinks" he has a receipt somewhere in an email. He did say it was bogging down and they replaced the carb and intake and now it runs fine. OK, fine...that's 500.00. Where is the other 20k at?


I've checked this guy out as that's what I do for a living and he does not, what so ever need the money. This man is very well off. I just think he had no idea what he was having built and had an open check book....


So I'm back to square one. Do I fly out there to see what the ***** he's talking about or just move on to the next one?


My gut feeling is to fly out there and see just exactly what the ***** he has.

 

I'd go look or have him send you some under shot pictures.

Even better get someone local to go look.

 

I wonder if he just got raped by some "restorer" and now he's trying to pass the (bad) buck. You'd think that after dropping 20G the car would be in excellent shape. But the PS and the brakes are dodgy? HMMMM.

 

sounds about right
there is nowhere near 20k in that engine compartment, period in fact a lot of it looks like azz but that can be fixed easily. Poor guy probably doesnt know any better.

 

Like I said in one of my first posts on this subject. The car wasn't even for sale. I saw it on the interweb and I contacted him to see if it was for sale. So I approached the owner first.


I personally think it was an open checkbook build and he didn't really know or care what was being built. He did say it was a 5 year build from start to delivery to him and a close personal friend (who builds micro cars) did the build for no labor fees at all. This guy just charged him for parts. The car has been finished for 3 years. Just within the last year he said he put 15 to 20k into the mechanicals...whatever that means, he wasn't clear at all.


Oh, he also said the interior was done by a friend of his who does his interiors on aircrafts that he buys.


I just don't think the owner knows or cares what he has. He said it doesn't bother him if the car just sits there as he likes looking at it. I think he is a South Florida high roller and just doesn't care about this car as in 3 years he only put 910 miles on it. Either that or its a POS and doesn't run. Who knows.


I believe the guy is honest because I asked him is the motor powerful or a pooch. He said in his opinion the car has no power but he owns lambo's and Porche type cars.


I'm pretty sure I'll pass on this one

 

I am not a restomod guy, but 60k for that car as described, plus plans to make major additional investments in it... it sounds absolutely off the charts to me.

Isn't there a better way to spend that kind of money on exactly what you want? C3 projects start with basically a 10-15k donor rather than a 30-40k one.

Maybe it's because you want a project much farther along and there aren't as many C3s, but I'm not seeing this car in that price neighborhood.

 

Interesting point on value. I have no desire for a project....want a finished car however I would not be opposed to engine mods if the car I found is not exactly what I want.


I've had 2 custom cars built to my specs within the last 10 years and will never do it again. Thank you guys for all your valuable input. Something will show up sooner or later...I hope.

 

If the bird cage is sound and the paint/bodywork is first rate I think your first offer $50-55k is about the right money. There's a ton of money in that interior but it will take the right buyer to see the value there. The Killer/KAOS car set the standard for these types of builds and I think that car traded hands in the 60's with an LS drivetrain. Even if you pull the drivetrain and start over, you are likely money ahead of trying to buy a $20k car and bringing it to that level. I would definitely put your eyes on it in person.

 

I spoke with the prior Florida owner on Kaos. The only reason I called him is I ran across an ad on Collector Car Ads that was about a year old and Kaos was in Oklahoma for sale. I emailed the guy a couple time with no response.


I found the Florida's owners email and reached out to him. We had a very nice conversation and he told me he sold it to a Corvette collector in Oklahoma for 55k. He owned it a couple years and then sold it to a guy in Austraila for 55K as well.


The car in this thread, per the owner was built based off of Kaos, specifically the wheels. The owner of the car in this thread said he's seen Kaos and in his opinion, the paint, body and interior is far superior on his car than Kaos.

 

Just remember, unless you plan to keep this car for life, you stand to take a big loss when you want to sell it like the guy you are buying from is.