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Old Feb 3, 2018 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by jv04
The VIN on the frame, assuming it is readable, will the the verification of the VIN.

But, given the condition of the car in general, I suspect that the frame VIN may also be unreadable.
Maybe, maybe not. Its a partial vin, same as the engine and trans stamps and might be considered a "part".

There is a good chance the frames vins are readable, particularly the rear wheel well vin.
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Maybe, maybe not. Its a partial vin, same as the engine and trans stamps and might be considered a "part".

There is a good chance the frames vins are readable, particularly the rear wheel well vin.
Yes, but the partial VIN on the frame is more that enough information to determine what the correct entire VIN is.

As an example, let's say the frame stamp is 9S701234.

We know the car is a coupe, so the full VIN would be 194379S701234.

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about 30 miles away from the car in question are these two cars for sale. your need them

https://baltimore.craigslist.org/cto...481159436.html
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Originally Posted by jv04
Yes, but the partial VIN on the frame is more that enough information to determine what the correct entire VIN is.

As an example, let's say the frame stamp is 9S701234.

We know the car is a coupe, so the full VIN would be 194379S701234.

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The auction had advertised it with a VIN so they must have had that information on something. The vin is 19437S718571 according to the auction. So, if that's on the engine, trans, frame and can be tied back to the tank sticker through NCRS with the shipper report using the Ident and Order number on the tank sticker that should be good enough to establish it as correct. However, state or even federal law might not feel the same way. I don't know the law on such things when it comes to the missing VIN tag (if it is even the case with this car).

Sometimes laws state that a certain "piece" is the item, not the sum of the other parts. That is the case with firearms. With firearms its just the number receiver that's the parts. All the other parts are just parts, even if they too have numbers.

I have heard, but do not know for sure, that its the same with cars. But im not sure about all cars. With Ferrari's, its the frame. The VIN tag is attached to the frame and that is the car. This has come up in court but for a slightly different reason with Ferrari's.There was a case where two people claimed ownership of the same car. One person had the frame, the other person had most of the body and the engine. Neither had a paper title or any other proof. It was clear that both people had pieces of the original car. In that case it was ruled that the frame is the car because of the location of the tag. He was awarded legal ownership of chassis xxxx.

I dont know if that could be the same with this Corvette. As long as nobody else claims they have the VIN tag and ownership for this vin then maybe the state will issue a title or registration for that particular vin and maybe a new legal vin tag could be made? I don't know. Do they inspect the vin before issuing a title? They don't in NY but I dont know elsewhere.

I am sure the car is what it is, but sometimes things like this can get sticky, especially if there is something like rarity and value involved......
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Originally Posted by ed427vette
The auction had advertised it with a VIN so they must have had that information on something. The vin is 19437S718571 according to the auction. So, if that's on the engine, trans, frame and can be tied back to the tank sticker through NCRS with the shipper report using the Ident and Order number on the tank sticker that should be good enough to establish it as correct. However, state or even federal law might not feel the same way. I don't know the law on such things when it comes to the missing VIN tag (if it is even the case with this car).

Sometimes laws state that a certain "piece" is the item, not the sum of the other parts. That is the case with firearms. With firearms its just the number receiver that's the parts. All the other parts are just parts, even if they too have numbers.

I have heard, but do not know for sure, that its the same with cars. But im not sure about all cars. With Ferrari's, its the frame. The VIN tag is attached to the frame and that is the car. This has come up in court but for a slightly different reason with Ferrari's.There was a case where two people claimed ownership of the same car. One person had the frame, the other person had most of the body and the engine. Neither had a paper title or any other proof. It was clear that both people had pieces of the original car. In that case it was ruled that the frame is the car because of the location of the tag. He was awarded legal ownership of chassis xxxx.

I dont know if that could be the same with this Corvette. As long as nobody else claims they have the VIN tag and ownership for this vin then maybe the state will issue a title or registration for that particular vin and maybe a new legal vin tag could be made? I don't know. Do they inspect the vin before issuing a title? They don't in NY but I dont know elsewhere.

I am sure the car is what it is, but sometimes things like this can get sticky, especially if there is something like rarity and value involved......
I think I recall seeing that, but there is a digit missing, the year digit.
19437S718571 should be 194379S718571.

This VIN, either in coupe form of convertible form does not show up in NMVTIS.

It will be interesting to see what VIN the buyer gets the car registered with. IF (big IF) it is a L-89, and it is a numbers matching car.

We matched motor and most accessories by serial # which we have. All number's were made within months or weeks of each other according to date codes. The number we used is 1943795718571.


Just read this from the auction site. They messed up and put a 5 where the S should be, BUT they apparently have the correct numbered engine.

The buyer should make the auction company fix this BEFORE they take delivery. Right now it is just paperwork. If a VIN fix is required, that will almost certainly mean a VIN tag verification, which might be a bit of a problem.
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Any updates on this car. It looks like it sold for $4750 on Jan 27, 2018, according to the auction website.

It would be interesting to find out if this is a real L-89 car or not
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