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Old Jun 8, 2018 | 07:19 PM
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Need some help. I have a ‘69C3 convertible with a 427 SHP motor and 4 speed. Of course I have the Vin, But nothing else. No tank sticker. I would like to see the original window sticker to see the options.
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Old Jun 8, 2018 | 08:21 PM
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That data is not available. The factory did not keep records based on individual builds. There are vendors who will make a duplicate window sticker based on the data you provide.
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Thank you Bob K. In that case, if I have the Vin and the Engine number on the front pad of the block, can I somehow determine if the motor was original to the car?
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Old Jun 8, 2018 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Vetteman1973
Thank you Bob K. In that case, if I have the Vin and the Engine number on the front pad of the block, can I somehow determine if the motor was original to the car?
The engine pad should have a VIN derivative stamped on it. That’s all you’ll need to verify that the engine is original.
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Thank you Bob K. In that case, if I have the Vin and the Engine number on the front pad of the block, can I somehow determine if the motor was original to the car?
If the vin derivative is not stamped into the engine pad then its not original.

However, if it IS on the engine pad then its either original or someone restamped it, which is possible.

Take some pics and post them here.
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Old Jun 9, 2018 | 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ed427vette
If the vin derivative is not stamped into the engine pad then its not original.

However, if it IS on the engine pad then its either original or someone restamped it, which is possible.

Take some pics and post them here.
I don’t know how to post pictures,, but the engine stamp says “TO117LR
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I don’t know how to post a photo, but the Engine pad says “T0117LR
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I don’t know how to post a photo, but the Engine pad says “T0117LR
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LR equals 427/435 solid lifter 4 spd.
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There has to be two sets of numbers, one that tells what the engine was built as, and one that tells what car it went into.
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Originally Posted by Vetteman1973
...T0117LR...
Originally Posted by Bob K
...LR equals 427/435 solid lifter 4 spd...
With Holley tri-power. Based on the engine assembly date of January 17, my hunch would be your car was assembled late in January or early February 1969. The time built date is in the upper right corner of the trim tag.

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Originally Posted by ed427vette
If the vin derivative is not stamped into the engine pad then its not original.
No, not always. the original engine could have been removed, decked, and rebuilt.. it would have a blank pad and still be the original engine.
in fact I suspect such a thing is not really that rare.

also from other posts. if the car is a 427/435.. then suspect tampering and that there is a great chance that the stamped numbers are not from the factory.

also, check the cast date and part number codes of the engine and heads.

with a 69 427/435 you need to have great scrutiny of all your stamped and cast numbers in order to determine what you have and what you have invested in.

learn to post pics here and you will get a mountain of valid expertise, instead of lots of this wild speculation that only raises more questions.

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Originally Posted by CA-Legal-Vette
The engine pad should have a VIN derivative stamped on it. That’s all you’ll need to verify that the engine is original.
Unless the engine was restamped.
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Sorry to seem ignorant, but what is a.Vin Dirivitive? Thinks to everyone for your help!!!
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Originally Posted by joewill
No, not always. the original engine could have been removed, decked, and rebuilt.. it would have a blank pad and still be the original engine.
in fact I suspect such a thing is not really that rare.
That's what mine is, Not a NOM but not numbers matching. I had the block zero decked.
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Originally Posted by Vetteman1973
Sorry to seem ignorant, but what is a.Vin Dirivitive? Thinks to everyone for your help!!!
your last six digits of your vin number that is found on the vin plate
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Originally Posted by ddawson
That's what mine is, Not a NOM but not numbers matching. I had the block zero decked.
not to start a argument but how can you prove it? once the numbers are gone there is ZERO ways to prove what it is.
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Originally Posted by Vettebuyer6369
Unless the engine was restamped.
You guys are really great. I have a "73 C-3 with a ZZ4. I am trying to help a friend. His Dad bought this '69 10 years ago as a complete car. Fast forward 10 years, the engine is out and rebuilt, trans is out and rebuilt, and the car has suffered many breaks in the fiberglass, etc. My friend has possession, and wants to sell for his Dad. We really don't know what he has. The engine has the one stamp I mentioned. He does has a perfect GM 3X2's intake with re-built carbs as well.
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look at the trans,a vin is there,look on the frame,[dr side by the 4th body mount],look for a rear sway bar,single fuel line,caps on the diff-instead of u-bolts,copper rad
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Ok. Thanks
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