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Hey guys! I am getting ready too install my windshield, and am wondering what the process is.
I know there should be sealant under the chrome ends
I have all my clips in place on the header
is there suppose too be a window stop at the base? I did not see one when I took my window out?
I know corner chrome and header stainless need too be installed before glass. But the base of the windshield has me baffled? Chevelles and Camaros have little steel wedges that screw in to keep the window from sliding down I just don’t see where they go? Let me know what I’m missing here! Thanks Troy
Just a suggestion to consider but it is a lot easier putting more of the car together before installing your windshield. Looks like a full blown restore and installing areas like the dash and components are easier with the windshield out.There are some good installation post if you do a search. I believe the screws for the upper clip were very small headed ones so not to hit anything. There are rubber little blocks as well as a center bracket for the center. That bracket also has a rubber sleeve that the glass rests on. One important step is having the windshield high enough so your trim pieces will fit properly. A dry mock up would also not be a bad idea. Just sayin................................... .................................
ZIO
Not a great picture but you can see the small metal bracket at the bottom in the center Clips also on end of windshield of a 71 model
thank you ZIO!
yes this is a frame off resto! [the things i get myself into] i am just making sure i have all the trim in place and properly installed. first is my dash assemblies, then pad, then glass. i did my 65 this way and it worked well because it made it mobile, a start up and move it from spot too spot. i know it means a little more taping when it comes time. but at least your not leaning over fresh paint too do all this later...from what i understand, the center bracket was a wiper resting area, thats why there is a rubber insert there for the arms too rest against..i am going too take measurements off my 71 for the stop brackets at the base and install them even if the 68 did not come with them. seems safer that way. i just dont remember how the 68 was and it seems odd there was not any of the stop brackets there? now ZIO, i posted another thread asking about the header trim, does the trim go behind the clips or inside the clips with the glass molding? thanks troy
69 and earlier did not have the extra braces on each end to support the glass. The only brace was the 3 or 4 inch long plate riveted to the firewall that the glass rests on. It is off center to the right at the bottom of the glass and directly down from the right edge of the defroster vent in the dash pad in the pic. I think those extra braces were added in 70 because with that lower glass support being off center, the glass could sag on the drivers side if it wasn't braced up until it set or dried. Below is my 69 and you can just see the support below the right end of the defroster vent and the spacers I used in pic 2 at each top corner of the glass to keep it from shifting until it set. Those trim clips go on first and there should be gaps in the upper stainless to slide behind the clips. Also, in your pic the trim clip furthest to the right is crooked or not flat up against the frame. Get the clips on flat or you will have trouble inserting the trim into the clip. Also new glass is made thinner than old stock so use the right thickness of damming strip or you will have big trim gaps. My old glass was aprox .275" and the new is .205" so I had to use 3/8" damming strip instead of 5/16ths for proper trim gaps.
Last edited by CanadaGrant; Aug 30, 2019 at 01:10 PM.
thanks grant, i have OEM glass going back in so thickness will not be a issue.. the clip you were pointing out that was crooked, it was unscrewed so i could look at how the trim might fit..
so are you saying the clips all go in place tight, and then the header trim slides into the clip just like the window molding does? i was thinking that the header molding should go on then the clips over that ? there are 3-4 screws facing the forward that also hold the header molding in place on the header. those have to be installed before glass also. let me know..troy
thanks grant, i have OEM glass going back in so thickness will not be a issue.. the clip you were pointing out that was crooked, it was unscrewed so i could look at how the trim might fit..
so are you saying the clips all go in place tight, and then the header trim slides into the clip just like the window molding does? i was thinking that the header molding should go on then the clips over that ? there are 3-4 screws facing the forward that also hold the header molding in place on the header. those have to be installed before glass also. let me know..troy
Mine is a 69 and the top header or T-top stainless piece goes on after the clips. The clips MUST go in before the glass or you can't get at the screws and you can take the top header trim off without clip removal. There is a cut out portion of the top stainless header for every clip and the header just slides down BEHIND the spring steel clip flat up against the windshield frame and not in the same clip groove as the narrow stainless upper windshield outer trim piece. The top 2 outer chromed corners must also go on before the glass as the front screws are behind the upper edge of the glass. The part line between the upper trim and outer stainless glass trim was sealed with a grey caulk that is not available anymore. I used a product called VersaChem Mega Grey OEM Import Gasket Maker to seal the top line and the corners as seen in pic 3 of my previous post and it looks as close to factory as you can get.
Last edited by CanadaGrant; Aug 30, 2019 at 10:45 PM.
Below is the underside of an original 69 upper stainless T-trim piece after removal. You can see the 6 cutouts that fit around those trim clips on the W/S frame and the back edges of those cutouts go behind the clips so that the stainless is flush or flat up against the windshield frame and not over or in the clip.
Last edited by CanadaGrant; Aug 30, 2019 at 11:48 PM.
Good info Canada, must have gotten my wires crossed and may have confused things OOPS.................................... ................
Your info was all good ZIO and some great advice about dry fitting everything just to make sure. It's a bit easier with original glass because you know that's what was in there before but with some of the new stuff that's thinner you have to try everything first and probably a number of times...
In your pic you can see the bracket the glass rests on and it's also the same bracket the tip of the wiper rests on or wiper stop. You are correct that there is a little rubber sleeve in the channel of the bracket so the glass isn't resting directly on metal. In 69 and earlier that was the only support and since it's off center towards the passenger side, you have to brace up the glass at least on the drivers side until it's set or you can find yourself pulling the glass again. I can see why it was changed with the end braces or tabs added starting in 70....
Last edited by CanadaGrant; Aug 31, 2019 at 11:03 AM.
Your first or top pic looks to be right but are you sure the screws you are using are correct? Maybe just the pic. Those clips require screws with a very thin head that don't protrude too far out from the inner surface of the clip so the outer windshield trim stainless doesn't bind and distort on the screw heads. The screws also have a bit of sealer on the threads to prevent any water from leaking through into the inner frame area. Link below at Corvette Central. https://www.corvettecentral.com/c3-6...ws%26count%3d9
Edit. Does your top stainless have a slots in it for those clips? I can't see one in your pic and you have to be able to get the piece on and off with the clips installed. Otherwise you would be forced to remove the windshield just to be able to loosen the clip screw to remove the top stainless piece. In other words, can you slide the top stainless behind the clip with the clip installed?
Last edited by CanadaGrant; Sep 1, 2019 at 11:01 PM.
I replaced just about every part on my 68 convert myself. But....I took the car to a local body shop recommended by my insurance company to install the windshield. If you have never installed a windshield before, I would suggest finding a good body shop to do the work. There is a significant risk of cracking the new glass when trying to get it to seat or not getting it sealed properly and finding out later it leaks. There are a couple jobs on these cars that go better being done by someone who does the procedure every day. This is one of them. Anyway, my $0.02
I replaced just about every part on my 68 convert myself. But....I took the car to a local body shop recommended by my insurance company to install the windshield. If you have never installed a windshield before, I would suggest finding a good body shop to do the work. There is a significant risk of cracking the new glass when trying to get it to seat or not getting it sealed properly and finding out later it leaks. There are a couple jobs on these cars that go better being done by someone who does the procedure every day. This is one of them. Anyway, my $0.02
thank you, i understand the worries people have with such a job.. but, i have done dozens of take out and installs of the old windows.[camaros chevelles C2 ] taking them out with out breaking is the hard part. installs are much easier. i do it the oem way with butell tape and have not broken one on a install as long as you have extra hands.. the only thing that is tripping me up is the trim work...
screw the clips too the frame tight, and insert the trim notch into the clip? or loosen the clip and slid it be hind the clip, then tighten the clip down?....thanks troy
Edit. Does your top stainless have a slots in it for those clips? I can't see one in your pic and you have to be able to get the piece on and off with the clips installed. Otherwise you would be forced to remove the windshield just to be able to loosen the clip screw to remove the top stainless piece. In other words, can you slide the top stainless behind the clip with the clip installed?
GRANT, yes there is a "v" shaped notch in the header trim. i know what your saying now! i think if you slide the trim behind the clip, and then tighten the clip down. it will make removal of trim with the glass in, impossible.. so your thinking the trim 'V" notch slides in the already tightened down clip so the trim is removable with glass installed? makes sense!
oh, and yes the screws were bought at CC and they do have the sealant on them..thank you troy