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Old Jul 23, 2020 | 09:18 PM
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I was quite happy this morning as I drove the Vette to the locksmith. I was going to pick up my re-keyed spare tire lock. I have now sourced a nice correct, spare tire carrier, cover and lock assembly, date correct jack (from this forum), and a rim within one day of the other four on the car. The rim needs a little work. Was feeling quite satisfied with my newly obtained parts.

As I was driving, I heard a noise as if I ran over a bolt. I hoped it was not something falling off my car. As I continued to drive, I heard a funny noise coming from under the hood. As I slowed to stop for a traffic light, I looked at the gages and the temp was pegged at 250. I Immediately pulled into a QT station and stopped the car. Upon inspection, I found the top alternator bolt had snapped off, the belt was still on but no tension= no fan or water pump. I only drove 2.1 miles from the time I heard the noise until I stopped. Probably 50 mph with no stops After repair, I started the car and returned to my home. The car ran at it’s usual temp, performed normally and made no strange noises. I checked the oil after arrival and there appeared to be no water in the oil.

Is there much chance of damage in this short time and distance?
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Old Jul 23, 2020 | 09:32 PM
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Rookie guess: the engine is O.K., but you could change the oil and filter.....fresh oil is a good thing after overheating.
Did you lose coolant....the sysrem may need filling and burping to remove air from the coolant system.
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Rookie guess: the engine is O.K., but you could change the oil and filter.....fresh oil is a good thing after overheating.
Did you lose coolant....the sysrem may need filling and burping to remove air from the coolant system.
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Old Jul 23, 2020 | 09:48 PM
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It's probably fine as long as the head gasket did not pop. We used to run cars bone dry, very occasionally, in the shop, when necessary, but never for long. Like a minute or so. They take a while to heat up, or to over-heat.

If you want to be very careful, like a lot of us about our pride and joys, you could:
  • Change the oil & look for water
  • Cut open the filter look for metal
  • Have the oil tested
  • Pressure test the radiator
For some that would bring peace of mind.
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Thanks Doorgunner! I dont think I lost any fluid as the radiator doesn’t appear to have heated up without the water pump working. The fluid appears to be at the cold fill line. I can probably see better tomorrow morning. I am sure changing the oil is a good idea! Thanks again for the reply,
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Old Jul 23, 2020 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by leigh1322
It's probably fine as long as the head gasket did not pop. We used to run cars bone dry, very occasionally, in the shop, when necessary, but never for long. Like a minute or so. They take a while to heat up, or to over-heat.

If you want to be very careful, like a lot of us about our pride and joys, you could:
  • Change the oil & look for water
  • Cut open the filter look for metal
  • Have the oil tested
  • Pressure test the radiator
For some that would bring peace of mind.
Thanks for the response. I want to ensure the block is not damaged. That would wreck the #s matching.
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Back in the Spring of '89 after sitting all winter my first trip out would be one to remember.
About 10 minutes in I noticed my temp needle was pegged. That's 280 on a '76.
I pulled over & shut her off. That's when I heard some popping noises coming from up front.
It was my radiator!! Sounded like a little 4th of July party was going on.
I got a flatbed & got it back home. Problem? A junk thermostat stuck shut.
Rad would be fine. That was 31 years & about 40,000 miles ago. No problems since......

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stayed full of coolant. you are fine. you can't get them really hot until all the coolant boils out. 2 minutes with water pump not spinning these engines can take.
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I had that same issue last year. It happened to me and i didnt see the broken bolt, it was on the alternator mount. Once it cooled I drove down the road a little further and the temp pegged again. It took a bit but my buddy spottd the issue. Long story on getting a AAA driver to comem but a local went to his house, found a relacement bolt and i was on the road again. All those mounting bolts are grade 8 now. I never had an issue with the motor afterwards. Cast iron heads are pretty tough. Now that I have aluminum I'll have to be more careful

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stayed full of coolant. you are fine. you can't get them really hot until all the coolant boils out. 2 minutes with water pump not spinning these engines can take.
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You should have at least two belts driving the water pump, but it sounds like you only had one. There should be a belt running from crank to water pump (only)...or crank, water pump, power steering. This is specifically so that the engine won't overheat because of ONE drive belt failing.
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You are probably fine. These engines can take a hit like that. Back when these things weren’t worth anything and we didn’t know any better we ran some Chevy engines hot until they stalled!! And then they still ran ok after they cooled down. Not a great idea of course but point is they can take a little heat.
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Originally Posted by 7T1vette
You should have at least two belts driving the water pump, but it sounds like you only had one. There should be a belt running from crank to water pump (only)...or crank, water pump, power steering. This is specifically so that the engine won't overheat because of ONE drive belt failing.
And there is a story there, but ya gunna hafta wait!
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Originally Posted by ed427vette
You are probably fine. These engines can take a hit like that. Back when these things weren’t worth anything and we didn’t know any better we ran some Chevy engines hot until they stalled!! And then they still ran ok after they cooled down. Not a great idea of course but point is they can take a little heat.
Unfortunately I can corroborate this statement. There were several times in my youth during the early 70s that I drove a car that was overheating to the point where it was making that clattering sound and dying. Went got water, fixed problem (usually later) and the thing ran fine after. Wonder what the price tag would be if you did that to a new McLaren 720S?
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Thank you all for the replies. I feel a better now. Will be going for a drove this weekend.
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