Mechanic
Step 1) start the car with the vacuum hose connected and apply brakes
Step 2) while car is running remove vacuum hose from the PB booster and block off than apply brakes.
Tell us what is happening with the brake pedal during each of those steps.
1) New calipers that are not leaking
2) 3 Master Cylinders
3) 3 PB Boosters
4) New distribution block (Proportioning Valve)
5) Gravity, vacuum and pressure bled system
Wild cards
1) Blocked current m/c off and have a hard pedal, this tells me the problem is downstream from the Master Cylinder.
2) When engine is started pedal goes to floor, this tells me you have a bad PB Booster.
3) Tried blocking front/rear lines at the m/c but got no pedal either way while engine running, this contradicts wild card #1.
I just went out to my 1973 Vette with PB and without starting the car I have a good pedal and brakes. There comes a time when you have to throw logic out the window and start back at ground zero. If this were my car I would do the following today in this order until I had brakes.
1) Power bled the brakes at all caliper bleed valve ports. I use a Power Bleeder from Motive Products at www.motiveproducts.com PN 0105 - Early American Rectangular Power Bleeder.
2) Verify I had no visible leakage or wet spots along the entire brake line system to include the calipers (remove one caliper at a time if required to see lip seal area). Most lip seal leakage is obvious to the naked eye without removing caliper.
3) Replace the Master Cylinder, bench bleed the MC and repeat #1 above
4) Replace Proportioning Valve and repeat #1 above
4) Replace the PB Booster after throwing wrenches out the garage door.
I honestly will be surprised if you don’t have brakes after completing step #1 & #2 given the amount of parts and steps you have already done on this car. This is a very basic brake system and not overly complicated to work on. Are you doing all this work yourself or relying on local mechanics? Wish I was local I would come over and fix those brakes.
Don’t let this get you down, lets beat this monkey into the ground.
From the GM Service Manual
Symptom – Excessive brake pedal travel
Cause
1) Leaking brake line or connection
2) Leaking piston seal
3) Leaking Master Cylinder
4) Air in brake system (most probable cause)
5) Uneven brake pad wear
6) Caliper attachments loose or missing
7) Faulty Proportioning Valve
I have done a lot of the work but didn't install calipers or the booster. Have been present when some of the mechanic's work was done. None of the mechanics want to re visit my problem.
They want to start all over with all new parts. I've lost track of $ spent but it's around $1300.00 so far. Your input is greatly appreciated.
If you can't get all four wheels off the ground (and wheels off the car) you can do this one at a time.



I have done a lot of the work but didn't install calipers or the booster. Have been present when some of the mechanic's work was done. None of the mechanics want to re visit my problem.
They want to start all over with all new parts. I've lost track of $ spent but it's around $1300.00 so far. Your input is greatly appreciated.

I can't imagine how frustrating this must be.
If you watched the mechanics do the work, did any of them use a pressure bleeder to get the air out? That, or a too-short actuator rod are all I can think of.
Did you check rotor runout? And did you do a continuity test on the switch on your combination proportioning valve?
Last edited by Bikespace; Feb 18, 2021 at 03:45 PM.
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mare your hard lines original??
What tool do you need for the front if you already bled the rears?
What tool do you need for the front if you already bled the rears?[/QUOT
He needs the proportioning valve bleeder tool.
Having owned and wrenched on several 65-77 Corvettes over the last 35 years I have never used nor do I own that tool and I have bled a lot of brakes. I just did run through my GM, Chilton, Haynes and Motor manuals for brake bleeding and proportioning valve replacement and none of them call out this tool. Not saying you don't need it or it doesn't have a function just that I have never used one.
Last edited by Mr D.; Feb 21, 2021 at 08:38 AM.
To reset the proportioning valve, start the car and stand on the brake pedal hard, I mean hard, and the valve will re-center.
You may need to pump it a couple times prior to standing on the pedal, to get enough stroke/ fluid pressure.
This should work.
Good luck
Jeff

Didn't quite understand resetting by bleeding opposite ends. Getting that valve off, while lying on your back to reset the slide is gonna be a bear.
Didn't quite understand resetting by bleeding opposite ends. Getting that valve off, while lying on your back to reset the slide is gonna be a bear.

















