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Old Apr 14, 2022 | 11:49 AM
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I am having a vibration problem sitting still in neutral and when i rev up to higher rpm as well. It never goes away. Could it be an incorrect flywheel ? What is the correct flywheel for a 1970 454 What do you think, any suggestions are appreciated. Thanks
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Old Apr 14, 2022 | 02:55 PM
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OEM original P/N 3993827. Casting numbers could be 3973457 or 3978457

Should be an externally balanced flywheel.

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Old Apr 14, 2022 | 06:34 PM
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Had a couple BBC but never owned a 454. But I vagally remember when the 454 was introduced to the Chevy lineup. It seems there was an issue with balancing even way back when. GM engineers insisted on balancing the 454s vibration damper, crank & flywheel together as one unit before installing it into the block.

Evidently, the 454 harmonic balancer has a specific weight on the inside of the hub. Hard to spot, but visible.

Perhaps that is your issue, the H.B.
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Old Apr 14, 2022 | 06:37 PM
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When did the vibration start?
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Old Apr 14, 2022 | 06:47 PM
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Clutch in does it stop?

if so input bearing probably..
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Old Apr 14, 2022 | 07:14 PM
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balancer and flywheel both have cast in counterweights.
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You can feel the extra size of the weight on the inside back of the front balancer with your finger, and you can see the added weight on the flywheel if you pull the inspection cover off and rotate the engine.
Verify both are there.
Most likely is some dummy replaced the clutch/flywheel at some point and used the wrong part. Or the balancer failed and the wrong part got put on.

Now depending on how original you think the car/engine is, or if it is a high performance build, it could also have been subject to an expensive high performance crank balancing job with mallory metal which would mean it is now internally balanced. It's unlikely, but you could see the mallory metal thru a borescope thru the oil pan hole.

Either way, get it wrong, and it will vibrate, and likely fail.

This is not a factory balancer, but it is a clear pic of how much extra metal should be on the backside of the front crank balancer. So you know what to "feel" for.

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More info on original parts 3993827 1970-90 14" 3.58" 11" 168 Counterweighted for externally balanced Mark IV 454 engines. Use with balancer P/N 3963530.
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here is back side pic of a 454 flywheel.
now, are you sure it is a 454? has it done this since you got the car? or since you got the car running?
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yes, the 454 is externally balanced by a special flywheel and front damper that will not work on other big blocks that are internally balanced, it it get worse as you rev, then you probably have the wrong flywheel or balancer.. or both. see the above pics for what you need.

unless it is not a 454 and is a a 427... a 427 with a 454 balancer or flywheel will cause vibration issues also..
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I went through a similar issue last summer but it wasnt a 454.
  • Do as directed above insuring the appropriate weights are installed. Aftermarket flywheels and dampers have removable weights.
  • Check the motor and transmission mounts. IF you see the motor move when you give quickly give it gas then you should replace the mounts. I went to solid mounts because my High Energy Poly mounts all failed
  • Make sure all the bolts are tight.
  • Make sure its a 454 as noted by Joe...either check the stamp or you will have to drop the pan and check the crank.

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you may be able to spot crank casting number with a borescope through the oil drain hole. or possibly piston number either on skirt or on top of piston thru spark plug. i doubt trying to measure piston travel using a coat hanger or similar thru plug hole will be able to accurately see the 1/4 inch stroke diff.
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