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Old Dec 20, 2023 | 01:36 PM
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Can you build an entire c3 corvette with new and/or reproduction parts?

Do I really need a donor car to do a restomod?

Can I get everything I need with new and/or reproduction parts?

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Old Dec 20, 2023 | 02:03 PM
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What year are you wanting to build? Budget? Goal?
Do you have anything to start with? Body? Frame?
It is all the little parts you need that will eat your lunch if you don't have them...
It is always best to start with a complete car in the best condition you can find / afford, if you can, even if it is missing engine and trans...
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I have nothing right now. My goal is to build is a custom C3 car with a frame that's 3" wider than a standard frame. So I will need a bunch of custom parts. I also want it to be electric, so yeah, don't need an engine or trans. I can throw a lot of cash at it but maybe not enough...? That's what I'm exploring. Good point about the little parts, so yeah, I guess a donor car makes sense there, but most of the thing will be useless to me. Sure I can sell them off but is it worth the trouble, or just buy what I need? Of course getting a donor will solve the title problem...

I want a bumper car look but also want to use the best parts from later models. I also want a retractable rear window, a breezeway window it's sometimes called.

Any thoughts?

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While most parts are available in the aftermarket including new and updated frames an entire body is not.

You can get most of the glass as parts but not a complete shell like you can for many steel cars like from Dynacom for the Mustang.

a donor car would not only give you many of the bits and pieces but could give you a solid body body to cut up to widen etc.

keep in mind there is a metal birdcage inside a corvette shell that would also need widening.

i recall seeing posts about someone who had used a c5 or 6 chassis and stretched a c3 body to fit. Was in australia and the had built a couple of them.
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Old Dec 20, 2023 | 02:39 PM
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Thanks man.

Does anyone know of anyone else doing a car on a wider frame? I know someone did a 3" wider C2. Can't find anyone who did it with a C3.

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Here it is

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-a-c6-z06.html
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Call Dave Kindig - for a couple million, he’ll build you want you want.
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Thanks man, just what I'm looking for.

Great stuff!
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well the first thing would be- without a car how are you going to title/license it when its done?

second, yes i would say you need a car. all the small parts you are thinking about will nickel and dime you to death.
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With the fit of most repro parts I can only imaging how bad the end product would be if it was all built from individual repro parts
A guy I know did a camaro and they used repro doors and fenders, the body shop set the gaps correct from the quarters but when they put the hood on they found out one side of the car was over 1/2 longer than the other...
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Where are you going to find a 3" wider windshield? You can fabricate everything except glass.
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Originally Posted by Richard Daugird
Where are you going to find a 3" wider windshield? You can fabricate everything except glass.
You can get custom windshields. I’m sure quite expensive. The guys down-under had to get their custom windshields from China, but they had to buy 10!

I’m thinking of doing the windshield like the Aerovette, wedge-shaped with a sharp angle running down the middle.

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Most cars I've seen done like this start with 2 donor cars. If you are going to build a car from scratch, why make it look like a C3 at all?
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Originally Posted by Bikespace
Most cars I've seen done like this start with 2 donor cars. If you are going to build a car from scratch, why make it look like a C3 at all?
Mostly the availability of parts and suppliers, and of course the cool factor. Yeah, you can build something really cool from scratch, and I'm thinking of doing that for Tesla's new econ model, making custom bodies for that... But that wont come out until 2025? In all truth, these projects will likely not get much beyond the design/concept stage. Just CAD drawings, spec sheets, and cost projections. Just pipe-dreams, perhaps. The other-thing, the EV technology keeps changing at a rapid pace. So hard to keep-up.

But I really appreciate everyone comments and assistance in this inquiry. You guys are the best.

Thanks again.
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FYI Several of us have bought 6-12k complete but project cars. And then buying what we need to make it look new again I still spent 45k just in parts. Lots of "free" labor not included LOL. You could easily spend 5k freshening up the interior, 13k on the frame, 13k on the engine, 5k on a transmission, 2k on AC, and I am sure there will be 5k for all the little bits like a new wiring harness, 2K tires/wheels, and then there's paint, some say 10k there. There are quite a few parts that are not reproduced at all, but most of the common wear items are. The basic body shell and frame alone would save you a lot of time, even if you mod it up.
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Originally Posted by leigh1322
FYI Several of us have bought 6-12k complete but project cars. And then buying what we need to make it look new again I still spent 45k just in parts. Lots of "free" labor not included LOL. You could easily spend 5k freshening up the interior, 13k on the frame, 13k on the engine, 5k on a transmission, 2k on AC, and I am sure there will be 5k for all the little bits like a new wiring harness, 2K tires/wheels, and then there's paint, some say 10k there. There are quite a few parts that are not reproduced at all, but most of the common wear items are. The basic body shell and frame alone would save you a lot of time, even if you mod it up.
Yeah, I hear ya. Its not going to be cheap, but I knew that.

From the discussion here I decided I need a donor. $12K for that. $20K for custom frame and bird cage. $3-5K for a Tesla 3 motor and components, plus all the other stuff you mentioned. A big expense will be the batteries. They are expensive enough as is, but for an EV conversion of a classic car you have to move the battery from the floor and split it into 2, 2/3 in the front and 1/3 in the back. The battery boxes will have to be custom made to fit the available spaces. It means double some components and double the cost. Plus the custom glass. and windshield. I might be better to spending the cash on something else, but I want to work it up just the same.

Thanks the the reply
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Did you see this thread?

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-electric.html
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Originally Posted by Bikespace
Thanks for that. Just skimmed it. Some good stuff in there. Funny how the battery tech has improved in just a few short years,

But I feel like some in the thread, that donor is too nice to F with. What, a ‘71. I would like to get a good body off frame to cut-up, and some bits and bobs. Everything else will be custom/fab.
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