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Old Jan 26, 2005 | 01:41 PM
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There are the GTOs and SSRs that also have LS2s so the lack of an F-body means nothing.
I believe it means something. The GTOs and SSRs combined will not even come close production-wise to that of F-bodys (when they made them). Also, I bet that as a percentage, more F-bodys tuned the PCMs more than will the GTOs and SSRs. This will result in a lower number of end users which usually leads to a higher price. I could be completely wrong about this, but it always seemed to me that the F-bodys pushed the LS1 aftermarket performance the most.

I'd agree the way to go would be use an LS1 computer if it is pretty straight forward. I just mentioned the LS2 tuning as somthing that should be researched into.
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Old Jan 26, 2005 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Fevre
Techno nerds taking over hot rodding, God help us all.
Damn kids and their infernal computers...

Those who fail to keep up will be left behind.

It's gonna be cool when I do the hovercraft conversion to the '70! That should be pretty soon, right?
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Old Jan 26, 2005 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Scooter70
Damn kids and their infernal computers...

Those who fail to keep up will be left behind.

It's gonna be cool when I do the hovercraft conversion to the '70! That should be pretty soon, right?
Just don't install the skirt upside down like they did on Monster Garage. Guess I am a Techno nerd want to be when I start playing with the laptop in my formula.
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Old Jan 26, 2005 | 05:27 PM
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I recently heard somewhere that they are thinking about bringing back the F-body. Can't remember where though, might have been at work. '07 or '08, I think? Hope so, I think the GTO sucks.

Scooter, don't forget the hidden machine guns and pop-up laser turret.

Thanks, 70ls1
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Old Jan 26, 2005 | 08:01 PM
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I guess it's a bad think knowing everything that is going on "in" your engine without getting a finger dirty.
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Old Jan 26, 2005 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by SteveG75

you think this thing is gonna clear our hoods?

thats a goofy supercharger. why not just turn it from the front?
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Old Jan 26, 2005 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by turtlevette
you think this thing is gonna clear our hoods?

thats a goofy supercharger. why not just turn it from the front?
Think the throttle body might get in the way.
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Old Jan 26, 2005 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Fevre
Think the throttle body might get in the way.
Yup, that is there C-5 model.

Magnacharger also has a rear entry, front drive model for trucks. I am thinking about one for my Avalanche. Read an article where the supercharger and headers got a 1/2 ton pickup (same 5.3 liter engine) from 244 rwhp to 364 rwhp. Not too shabby.

Anyway, as to height. Magnacharger clears the stock hood of a C-5. Probably work with my '75. An L-88 hood would clear for sure.
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Old Jan 26, 2005 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by SteveG75
Magnacharger clears the stock hood of a C-5.
That is not the C5 model. The C5 version is lower slung and moved up to the front of the engine to clear the cowl and windshield which hang over the rear of the engine. Also, the C5 requires a slightly raised hood. The one pictured is an intercooled Street Rod version. Basically the same thing only centered over the engine.

I talked with a rep at Magnacharger and they offer an even lower version set to the rear of the engine. They designed it for a 58 vette and claim it will fit under the stock small block hood of a C3.
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Old Jan 26, 2005 | 09:16 PM
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Scooter, I thought the SSR used an aluminum 5.3L motor, not ls2?? Did they switch to the ls2 this year?
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Originally Posted by 70 LS1
That is not the C5 model. The C5 version is lower slung and moved up to the front of the engine to clear the cowl and windshield which hang over the rear of the engine. Also, the C5 requires a slightly raised hood. The one pictured is an intercooled Street Rod version. Basically the same thing only centered over the engine.

I talked with a rep at Magnacharger and they offer an even lower version set to the rear of the engine. They designed it for a 58 vette and claim it will fit under the stock small block hood of a C3.
Well, you know what they say about "assume"-ing something.

I haven't done much research since the $$ aren't there yet but it sound like Magnacharger could hook you up with exactly the blower you need. I was thinking of a 6.0 Escalade crate motor ($4292.50 from Scoggins Dickey). Swap the cam and add the blower. Of course, this is all just theoretical right now.
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Old Jan 26, 2005 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by lostpatrolman
Scooter, I thought the SSR used an aluminum 5.3L motor, not ls2?? Did they switch to the ls2 this year?

LS2 and T56. Exactly what that "truck" needed.
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Old Jan 26, 2005 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by lostpatrolman
Scooter, I thought the SSR used an aluminum 5.3L motor, not ls2?? Did they switch to the ls2 this year?
Just hit the Chevrolet website. 390 hp 6.0L LS2 and available T-56 6speed. The SSR is finally getting what it needed from day one.

They also have some info on the new Z06.

7.0 L LS7
500 hp at 6200 rpm
475 hp at 4800 rpm
7000 rpm redline
7100 rpm fuel cutoff
Dry Sump oil system
Titanium rods
Bores honed with deck plate installed

Six piston front, four piston rear calipers

Carbon fiber front flares (weight down to 3100 lbs)

Alumin frame for the Z06 while the coupe and convertible have steel frames.

Got to go buy some lottery tickets, I want one of these.
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Old Jan 26, 2005 | 09:35 PM
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Alumin frame for the Z06 while the coupe and convertible have steel frames.
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all C5s had aluminum frames. It seems wierd that they would go back to steel.
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Old Jan 26, 2005 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by SteveG75
Well, you know what they say about "assume"-ing something.

I haven't done much research since the $$ aren't there yet but it sound like Magnacharger could hook you up with exactly the blower you need. I was thinking of a 6.0 Escalade crate motor ($4292.50 from Scoggins Dickey). Swap the cam and add the blower. Of course, this is all just theoretical right now.

You'll need to do more than the cam. Depending on the amount of boost, forged bottom end, different injectors, PCM editing. Also depending on how far you go, aftermarket fuel system as well. The guy building my motor has a C-5 coupe in his shop right now with all those goodies except that it's a twin turbo with intercooler. 1200 hp claimed. Also had a new V-10 Dodge truck with the same setup. I've no idea how much THAT animal puts out.
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Old Jan 26, 2005 | 10:00 PM
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Alot of people run boost on stock bottom ends. I think somewhere around 8 psi is the limit for the ls1 internals.
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Originally Posted by SteveG75
Well, you know what they say about "assume"-ing something.

I haven't done much research since the $$ aren't there yet but it sound like Magnacharger could hook you up with exactly the blower you need. I was thinking of a 6.0 Escalade crate motor ($4292.50 from Scoggins Dickey). Swap the cam and add the blower. Of course, this is all just theoretical right now.
If I had the money, I would build up something like this
http://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread...7&page=1&pp=20
All aluminum 402 - 500 N/A rwhp daily driver is obtainable with these with the right combo

its about time the SSR finally got a REAL drivetrain.

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Old Jan 26, 2005 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by lostpatrolman
If I had the money, I would build up something like this
http://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread...7&page=1&pp=20
All aluminum 402 - 500 N/A rwhp daily driver is obtainable with these with the right combo
Didn't them long....

its about time the SSR finally got a REAL drivetrain.
Now they just need to hammer those fenders down.
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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by turtlevette
all C5s had aluminum frames. It seems wierd that they would go back to steel.

I dont think they did. I've always know the C5's to have a hydra-formed steel frame with maybe al. panels and suspension, but the rigiditiy is coming from steel. Correct me if I'm wrong (I only have a C3), but I just dont think the al. frame would make it into a 50K car.
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