C3 Tech/Performance V8 Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Basic Tech and Maintenance for the C3 Corvette
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

EFI Product Development

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 6, 2005 | 05:45 PM
  #1  
After Shark's Avatar
After Shark
Thread Starter
Advanced
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 96
Likes: 0
From: portland TN
Default EFI Product Development

You one get to vote once so make it count. If you have don't under stand the question send me a PM and I will try and clarify. Thanks for your time.
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2005 | 05:58 PM
  #2  
duliz's Avatar
duliz
Intermediate
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 39
Likes: 0
From: McAllen TX
Default

If I had the money to convert the fuel system in my car I would definitely get the PERFORMER RPM FI kit because you don't need a laptop to reprogram it, and the kit already includes a preprogrammed chip for your engine specifications. This kit also comes with very good intake.
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2005 | 06:25 PM
  #3  
81 Vette's Avatar
81 Vette
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 917
Likes: 0
From: Vernon British Columbia
St. Jude Donor '05
First C3 General Poster!
Default

Im big on trying to bridge the gap between classic styling and performance heritage with modern technology, but I voted for a carbed up system with injection as well.

My C3 will have some technology integrated into it, and the engine, but all that technology is going to enhance the original SBC design and function as intended 33 years ago.
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2005 | 06:35 PM
  #4  
DonBecker's Avatar
DonBecker
Racer
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 276
Likes: 0
Default

I have the controller for:

www.megasquirt.info

And have read up on the others. I like the fact that I have control over everything. With those 'brand-name' ones, there is no flexibility. Bah to that. The other plus is I can make it work with all kinds of different EFI setups.
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2005 | 07:20 PM
  #5  
zwede's Avatar
zwede
Race Director
25 Year Member
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Sep 1999
Posts: 11,360
Likes: 382
From: Plano TX
Default

Originally Posted by DonBecker
I have the controller for:

www.megasquirt.info

And have read up on the others. I like the fact that I have control over everything. With those 'brand-name' ones, there is no flexibility. Bah to that. The other plus is I can make it work with all kinds of different EFI setups.
Only one you have limited control over is the edelbrock system. The others (Holley C950, FAST, MOTEC etc) all give you total engine control down to the most detailed level.
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2005 | 07:23 PM
  #6  
84rzv500r's Avatar
84rzv500r
Drifting
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,486
Likes: 10
From: Big Pine Key FL
Default

That's easy...

RAMJET!!

Reply
Old Apr 6, 2005 | 07:41 PM
  #7  
Eddie 70's Avatar
Eddie 70
Race Director
Supporting Lifetime Gold
St. Jude 10 Year Donor
25 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Feb 1999
Posts: 19,659
Likes: 34
From: Lenoir City Tennessee
Ci 6, 8 & 10 Veteran
St. Jude Donor '05-'06-'07-'08-'09-'10-'11-'12-'13-'14-'15
Default

I have always thought I would love to have the Holley Commander 950 in mine. I love the look of the setup, plus you can keep your original air cleaner and it maintains some similarity to stock look.
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2005 | 07:51 PM
  #8  
bobs77vet's Avatar
bobs77vet
Race Director
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Liked
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 11,874
Likes: 263
From: Arlington Va Current ride 04 vert, previous vettes: 69 vert, 77 resto mod
Default

i'm about $2000 away from doing this.....but someday.....
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-9

Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

 Michael S. Palmer
Old Apr 6, 2005 | 08:12 PM
  #9  
mrvette's Avatar
mrvette
Team Owner
Active Streak: 120 Days
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 65,492
Likes: 230
From: Orange Park Florida
Default

NOt that this has much if any bearing on today's situation, BUT, ten years ago it was rather difficult to do a DPFI setup that was not a stock controller, true that T-body systems existed, but an old OLDS racer friend with a '79 442 and a 455+++ turning like 11 seconds, but even he gave up and went back to carbs....shame really, would have bought that setup for the Goat, but it was just T-body, and so not what I wanted....

Not sure what I"d buy today, but cool looking is still a TPI setup, and what for electronics?? I am open to suggestions as mine is a stock setup with aftermarket chip I can't access easily....

GENE
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2005 | 09:38 PM
  #10  
corvettecris's Avatar
corvettecris
Burning Brakes
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,100
Likes: 2
From: Charlotte NC
Default

I really am looking into TBI. It is a lot cheaper. and I think it would provide what I'm looking for: better mileage, more power, and improved cold starting and throttle response. YOu think?
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2005 | 09:47 PM
  #11  
CorvetteDave01's Avatar
CorvetteDave01
Burning Brakes
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,139
Likes: 0
From: Salina Kansas
Default

Edelbrock now makes a new drag racing version of the proflo EFI setup. It's supposed to be good for up to 1500 hp for both sb and bb chevy. Injectors are some kind of variable rate set up, 60-80 lb/hr. rating I think. Don't know the price on it.
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2005 | 09:47 PM
  #12  
CorvetteDave01's Avatar
CorvetteDave01
Burning Brakes
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,139
Likes: 0
From: Salina Kansas
Default

It's also programable with a laptop, I forgot to put that in there.
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2005 | 10:59 PM
  #13  
I'm Batman's Avatar
I'm Batman
Team Owner
Supporting Lifetime
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 23,831
Likes: 10
From: Springfield MO
St. Jude Donor '07
Default

I'm putting a modfied LT-1 manifold on top of my 4-bolt 412 SBC. I have the equipment and software to do my own eproms, and I'm ready to get to work. This is gonna be fun...
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2005 | 11:13 PM
  #14  
mrvette's Avatar
mrvette
Team Owner
Active Streak: 120 Days
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 65,492
Likes: 230
From: Orange Park Florida
Default

Batty, we need to talk, IM me, as I need change somethings on my prom, things that I dont agree with....

the timing pattern is one....

computer is a 1227730

GENE
Reply
Old Apr 7, 2005 | 10:47 AM
  #15  
Z-man's Avatar
Z-man
Race Director
25 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Nov 1999
Posts: 10,643
Likes: 8
From: Foxfield CO 1970 Convertible
Default

Originally Posted by DonBecker
And have read up on the others. I like the fact that I have control over everything. With those 'brand-name' ones, there is no flexibility. Bah to that. The other plus is I can make it work with all kinds of different EFI setups.
I'll have to agree w/Zwede on this one. Most of the other brand-name systems are incredibly flexible. I've got the Holley C-950 and you are able to control every aspect of engine performance including idle, full throttle, acceleration, deceleration, throttle lift-off, narrow and wide band O2; 1,2, and 3 bar boost for super and turbo charged engines, fuel pump power, manifold pressure, throttle position, idle air control, water temperature, electric fan temperature control, transmission control, closed / open-loop control, and two other inputs for user-defined systems. The fuel injectors can be regulated in millisecond intervals from fully closed (0%) to fully open (100% duty cycle) over all ranges of operation, and these ranges are user-defined! The control combinations must be in the hundreds of millions. In addition to speed-density control, there is an alpha-n option (for drag racing, etc.). You can data-log all of this data either to the ECU or to a laptop. They are very flexible...

The poll needs an "other" category...
Reply
Old Apr 7, 2005 | 10:52 AM
  #16  
flood's Avatar
flood
Race Director
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 10,896
Likes: 2
From: CO
Default

THe look of a TPI system is unbeatable. If there was a kit that fit under my 75 hood and was programable it would be nice. If rom chips are needed a rom burner and chips with the kit could come in handy.

Although I must admit Im a cheap-*** and if I ever go FI on the C3 I would go mega-squirt.
Reply
Old Apr 7, 2005 | 12:11 PM
  #17  
Bullshark's Avatar
Bullshark
Melting Slicks
20 Year Member
All Eyes On Me
Photogenic
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 2,668
Likes: 119
From: St. Charles Mo
CI 5 & 8 Veteran
Default

From the product discription, the new FAST XFI system sure sounds like it does it all. Including built in wideband O2 capability and sequential cylinder injection.
I own a MEFI (GM RamJet 502) and the Holley Commander 950 systems. MEFI is a good system if all you want to do is plug it in and go. It is very difficult and expensive to get any real diagnostic or reprogramable capability.
Like Zwede says, the Holley system is extemley flexable allowing full programability and relativly affordable. I love it, however, it is getting a little behind the technology curve. It still utilizes bank to bank injection and requires external electronics to support wideband O2.

I called FAST and they seem to be pretty proud of there technology.....retail ~$2500 for complete widband system including harness ( not a full system including intake and throttle body like the Holley Commander 950)

I think I will wait a little for the competition to get the price down before I upgrade the MEFI

Bullshark
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To EFI Product Development

Old Apr 7, 2005 | 04:23 PM
  #18  
I'm Batman's Avatar
I'm Batman
Team Owner
Supporting Lifetime
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 23,831
Likes: 10
From: Springfield MO
St. Jude Donor '07
Default

mrvette,
The big issue with reprogramming the '7730 and similar computers is the funky memcal unit. I'm going to get one and modify it for a replacable chip, but I'm also plenty afraid of destroying a good memcal. There are a lot of people out there who do programming for a fee, if you already know what you want it should help keep the cost down. For more info, check out the gm-ecm section of diy-efi.org. Anything I can help with, feel free to ask.
Reply
Old Apr 7, 2005 | 05:00 PM
  #19  
LemansBlue68's Avatar
LemansBlue68
Melting Slicks
15 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 2,131
Likes: 4
From: May help you? You can sure as hell try!
Default

I always liked the 4X2 Weber setups with the mini-velocity stacks. An EFI version of that would be the catsass!
Reply
Old Apr 7, 2005 | 05:53 PM
  #20  
75 Stingray!'s Avatar
75 Stingray!
Drifting
10 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 1,414
Likes: 2
From: Barrie
Default

I'd like to modify one of these for fuel injection
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:21 AM.

story-0
10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

Slideshow: 10 reasons why the C6 Z06 is still a performance benchmark after 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 17:20:09


VIEW MORE
story-1
How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

Slideshow: How much horsepower every Corvette engine lost in 1972.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:54:53


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-4
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-5
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

Slideshow: Ranking the top 10 Corvette engines by torque output.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:58:09


VIEW MORE
story-7
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

Slideshow: A Corvette pace car nearly matching IndyCar speeds sounds exaggerated, until you look at the numbers.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-04 20:03:36


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

Among a rather large group of them.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:56:44


VIEW MORE
story-9
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

Slideshow: the top 10 things Corvette owners want in the C9 Corvette

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-30 12:41:15


VIEW MORE