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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 11:39 AM
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Double check the Ford/ Lemans wins. I'm sure you'll find those were 289 engines in those GT 40s


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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 11:53 AM
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Double check the Ford/ Lemans wins. I'm sure you'll find those were 289 engines in those GT 40s

I double checked. I was right and you are wrong. The winning motors were 427 engines prepared by Holman-Moody.

http://www.fast-autos.net/ford/fordmk2.html

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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 12:08 PM
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Rule number 1: Do not argue with Dep on the internet, you can't win.

Rule number 2: See rule number 1.
And once again............
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ Dep

I double checked. I was right and you are wrong. The winning motors were 427 engines prepared by Holman-Moody.

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So, you're saying that big blocks are better than small blocks?

Oh... Ok.
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 12:46 PM
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Seaside63
So, you're saying that big blocks are better than small blocks?

Oh... Ok.
1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8, .... and the referee is still counting. Was this a clean knock out or was it a low blow?

It sure looks to me the big block was better at winning.
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 12:54 PM
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DING!!! TKO!
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 03:10 PM
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So, you're saying that big blocks are better than small blocks?

Oh... Ok.
No, I'm saying the the 427 Ford brought home the bacon for the USA and not the 289. The Ford 289 that you can brag about is the one that was installed in the AC Cobra. THAT is the engine that coined the expression among Vette owners of being "snakebit"

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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ Dep
Originally, I was gonna go big block 427. Heck, I was eyeballing an aluminum block to build a ZL-1 clone.
Heh Dep, this was something I couldn't understand. Why did you sell the 454 that your car came with?

Seems to me that it would have been a good foundation for a 427. All you would have needed was a new crank and pistons to destroke the 454 (basically the reverse of what Chevy did going from the 427 to the 454). Even if it was a two bolt block, it could have been machined for splayed caps. Not sure how the LS-4 heads flowed, but they could have been sold on Ebay. Plus, you already had all the BB accesories.

Just curious is all.
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Heh Dep, this was something I couldn't understand. Why did you sell the 454 that your car came with?

Seems to me that it would have been a good foundation for a 427. All you would have needed was a new crank and pistons to destroke the 454 (basically the reverse of what Chevy did going from the 427 to the 454). Even if it was a two bolt block, it could have been machined for splayed caps. Not sure how the LS-4 heads flowed, but they could have been sold on Ebay. Plus, you already had all the BB accesories.

Just curious is all.
Steve: It would have had to have been a complete new engine from the block on. Rebuilding the block for 4-bolt mains and doing a full rebuild is not cost effective. Cheaper to just buy a new Dart or Merlin block. Oval port heads are crap...good for the street and that's all.
Everything else would have gotten tossed. I may still build a big block some day. And it WOULD be a 427. It's just not doable at this time. Parts for a 427 build are almost as tough to locate as a 302. I did find a guy with a bunch of new forged cranks on E-Bay. Floating pistons in stock bore are hard to locate. Same is true for the 302. Cranks and pistons are impossible to find.

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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Seaside63
So, you're saying that big blocks are better than small blocks?

Oh... Ok.
Now that's priceless!!
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Old Jul 30, 2005 | 12:04 PM
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Old Jul 30, 2005 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ Dep
Steve: It would have had to have been a complete new engine from the block on. Rebuilding the block for 4-bolt mains and doing a full rebuild is not cost effective. Cheaper to just buy a new Dart or Merlin block. Oval port heads are crap...good for the street and that's all.
Everything else would have gotten tossed. I may still build a big block some day. And it WOULD be a 427. It's just not doable at this time. Parts for a 427 build are almost as tough to locate as a 302. I did find a guy with a bunch of new forged cranks on E-Bay. Floating pistons in stock bore are hard to locate. Same is true for the 302. Cranks and pistons are impossible to find.

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Scat makes a 5140 forged stock replacement 427 crank.
http://www.flatlanderracing.com/scc-f5140.html

Summit has as many pistons as you want.

Just search for the bore you want, and the stroke you want(3.76)

Then all you need is a standard big block rod.
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Old Jul 31, 2005 | 09:28 AM
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Thanks Jake...I missed that one!!!
Looks like Flatlander has a LOT of parts I could use!!!
I'll keep them bookmarked. But I'm still gonna go with a mouse 350 for now

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