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Old Jul 31, 2005 | 02:35 PM
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I'm having a heck of a time getting this motor fired up properly. When it fires it'll run for 1-4 seconds, die down, then comeback up. It'll do that for a couple of cycles then it dies with a carb belch. I'm starting to think the dist. is a tooth or so off. I had a little fire. Luckily I have several fire extinguishers in my garage. The first one malfunctioned.

Anyway, does this sound like a valve timing issue? This is the position of the rotor when I installed the dist. It was on the compression stroke at TDC.

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Old Jul 31, 2005 | 02:47 PM
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The ignition timing has to be close.....
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Old Jul 31, 2005 | 05:22 PM
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If you're distributor is set to fire at TDC with no advance you'll get backfires. Turn the distributor counterclockwise a little and try again.
You'll probably end up moving over one more cog to get the timing where it should be and have it oriented about where you have it now.
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Old Jul 31, 2005 | 05:23 PM
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Hi
Do you think you could have gotten some condensation in your gas while it was sitting up? I had a simular problem and had to replace the plugs and power valves before it would run.
Rog
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Old Jul 31, 2005 | 05:29 PM
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sounds like a timing issue... Like I posted in the other thread.. I lined up #1 with the rotor and had the timing mark at zero.. and it still didn't run right and would backfire through the carb...

Try moving the distributor far to the right, try and if that doesn't work, move it far to the right and try again.. That way I was able to set the timing but the distributor ended up in an unusual angle, so I pulled it and installed it 1 tooth off and I finally had the distributor sitting straight when the timing was set to 36 degrees...
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Do you think you could have gotten some condensation in your gas while it was sitting up? I had a simular problem and had to replace the plugs and power valves before it would run.
Rog
The tank itself was unused. I put the fuel system together about 6 mos. ago. I just put gas in it about 3 days ago.
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Old Jul 31, 2005 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by jdmick
If you're distributor is set to fire at TDC with no advance you'll get backfires. Turn the distributor counterclockwise a little and try again.
You'll probably end up moving over one more cog to get the timing where it should be and have it oriented about where you have it now.
I've had it far left, far right and somewhere in between and it does the same thing. I'm thinking I'm gonna take it out and reinstall it one tooth to the left (facing the front of the car).
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Are you sure that you have the plug wires on correct. Check your firing order 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2 and be sure.
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Originally Posted by captainmorgan
Are you sure that you have the plug wires on correct. Check your firing order 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2 and be sure.
That was one of the first things I rechecked (twice).
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Originally Posted by GrandSportC3
sounds like a timing issue... Like I posted in the other thread.. I lined up #1 with the rotor and had the timing mark at zero.. and it still didn't run right and would backfire through the carb...

Try moving the distributor far to the right, try and if that doesn't work, move it far to the right and try again.. That way I was able to set the timing but the distributor ended up in an unusual angle, so I pulled it and installed it 1 tooth off and I finally had the distributor sitting straight when the timing was set to 36 degrees...
I'm becoming convinced that's what it is. I assume by "right" you mean counterclockwise as you face it from the front. I'm gonna reinstall the distributor one tooth to the left tomorrow and see what happens. The little time the motor is lit it sounds wicked.
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It does sound like a timing thing but you also should check the floats on your carb. I had a similar problem when installing a new carb and found the primary float way low.
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Old Jul 31, 2005 | 09:53 PM
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timing it is i just had to deal with this yesterday except my carb cought on fire.
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Old Jul 31, 2005 | 10:00 PM
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I'd say you have a timing issue with possibly a couple of sparkplugs mis placed.

Put the engine back up to TDC on #1 and retime it from there. Start at the start don't try and adjust it until it works. IN the end it is usually quicker this way.

When I fired my eninge up today, I had to move the dist 1 tooth just because I couldn't adjust it enough to get good timing.... I didn't have any back fires. Back fires means your timing is way off or you sparkplugs are not located right.
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Advance the distributor until the engine is hard to turn over then back it off a touch. A retarted ignition will backfire through the carb.
Our distributors turn clockwise to to advance it turn the housing counterclockwise.
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With your valve cover off. See the number one cylinder go through an event. Compression stroke. Your just bumping it over with the starter. Then look at the timing indicator. + or - 10 degrees on the damper is no big deal.

Now no matter where the plugs wires are on the dist. before. Set #1.............8 in correct order That way your right in sequence.

+ or - 20 degrees is not abig deal. It will fire up and then dial it in with a timing light
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Originally Posted by 69ttop502
It does sound like a timing thing but you also should check the floats on your carb. I had a similar problem when installing a new carb and found the primary float way low.
I adjusted the floats. That is one thing I like about this DEMON, the ease in which you can adjust the floats.
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Thanks for all the info guys. I will put it to use today and I feel confident I'll be breakin' this thing in on the road soon.
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Question: Did you change the distributor gear to a bronze gear before installing the distributor?? If you did, did you line up the dimple with the rotor? I just found out that the dimple has to line up or the timing will be off.. If you didn't change it, disregard, otherwise check my distributor gear thraed..
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