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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 05:30 AM
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First problems with the XE series, now their rollers? Looks like they got some serious problems at CompCams.
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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 06:16 AM
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Wow that is ugly. Did Comp ask to have the cam returned or photos of the cam wear? It seems they would/ should be interested in knowing why it failed to correct this issue with other cams. I agree that it seems the hardness may be at question with two adjourning lobes afflicted from excessive wear.
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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 10:18 AM
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You can just see the difference in the pictures of my cam made out of quality steel and copper coated compared to your Comp Cam crude casting.

24 years old - Just see how much less time you spend thrashing on cars or anything 16 years from now. Things like well lit, warm, and carpet to cover garage floor to work in are very important. don't forget - lots of air tools

I just need to build a seperate garage with a car lift!

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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 10:24 AM
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These pictures were just 5 months ago when i was getting this 427 ci ready to rock -n-roll.

The yellow t-handle is used to install the ARP Allen head studs

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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 10:32 AM
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I wonder what would Comp Cams response be if they saw this thread? ....Hmmmmm
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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 11:48 AM
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I just sent them 3 wiped cam lobe threads. They'll probably ignore it though.
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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by VETDRMS
OK, I have got some pictures.





i would run a rev kit to make sure the roller stays in contact with the cam at all times because lifter float could cause this problem. find a good machine shop that has a hardness tester and check the hardness of all the lobes to see if the grooved one are softer than others and if not what i stated about could be your problem. i never ran a roller cam without a rev kit and it is also a safety device if some thing breaks in the valve train the lifter will not come out of the lifter bore and turn sideways and these goes your block
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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 03:49 PM
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I never knew that Clem, might be something that I'll add over the winter months. Thanks for the tip
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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 04:18 PM
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Thought the rev kits where for hyd roller cams? Aren't solid (mech) cams supposed to have lash/free play?
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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 04:27 PM
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OK, I called Comp Cams and have an update.

I emailed the tech I was speaking with a picture of the cam and he is going to print it out and take it over to the warranty guy and give me a call back concerning what they can do about it, and if they know what caused it. It looks like they care, and having a picture to send them instead of trying to explain it over the phone is a LOT easier.

Thanks for the heads up Clem.
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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Fevre
Thought the rev kits where for hyd roller cams? Aren't solid (mech) cams supposed to have lash/free play?
the lash needs to stay at the rocker arm to valve stem tip interface not at the cam lobe to lifter roller interface.
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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 05:36 PM
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Clem: I can see why having the roller follower just riding loosely on the lobe can be an issue. Why is it they do not recommend a rev-kit?
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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 05:51 PM
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I took out my rev kit at the first cam change. The reason was I didn't need the additional 25# or so that a rev kit adds to the total spring pressure. I was already running 190 lbs seat pressure and only spinning my 383 to 7500 rpm.

The idea is: they consist of a bar and springs that mount under the overhang of your heads intake ports. If you have a failure of your pushrod or rocker arm this additional little 25 pound spring keeps the roller lifter riding on the cam lobe. It also keeps everything going when without them you would be at an rpm where you would be in valve float

If i was going to do over 7500 rpm ant used valve lifts of over .700 inches I'd have one. These lower rpm and less than .650 lift solid roller motors just don't have many problems. Just buy good springs/rockers/heavy wall push rods
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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 05:57 PM
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George: I don't think it will be necessary in this case as I don't plan to spin this over 7000rpm.

I am using Crane's best pushrods and a good solid stud girdle.

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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 06:15 PM
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Personnally I don't trust the people working at Comp Cams because of all the grief they have cost me in the past. They lied to me on what they really could deliver. When all i ask was: I would like a custom extreeme profile sleaved small base circle cam with the following lobe profile numbers ground on 112 lsa without any 4 degrees of ground in advance.

7 weeks later and billed three times I get a large base circle non sleaved cams with a note that they gave me the Poly gear for the non sleaved gear for only $80 more.

Then on another project they sent a 1.030 base circle cam that hit every rod In a complete short block rotating kit

Their cams and people tend to suck. But their other products are number one. I have comp cams big buck pushrods, steel rockers, and springs
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