Road Course Junkies, Let's compare notes
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St. Jude Donor '07
Originally Posted by turtlevette
you may also have problems running the 11" wide tires on 8" rims. You may get some roll over. You can get 15x10" wide rallys. I used to run them on back. I thought i saw somewhere that the rim width should be equal to the section width of the tire or greater for racing.
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Get Twin Pin J56s For serious duty
The Delco stainless steel lined castings machined to match the original J-56 twin pin calipers. The General knew what he was doing. OEM pistons with correct phenolic second-design insulators are what you need. These insulators were designed to help prevent brake fluid boiling under extreme conditions. These are normally adequate for road racing applications, but if you need even better thermal insulators, go with the titanium. Not cheap just good!
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St. Jude Donor '07
These are what I have. You can buy them with the new calipers.
http://www.vbandp.com/detail.aspx?ID=279
I'll try and get a picture but it won't be very good.
http://www.vbandp.com/detail.aspx?ID=279
I'll try and get a picture but it won't be very good.
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Melting Slicks
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St. Jude Donor '03,'11
I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on these shocks.
http://www.madvet.com/shop?frame=4.190.1689
No they're not Bilsteins. I don't necessarily want the best shock, i want the firmest shock i can find for a reasonable price. These are only $50 each and are adjustable from soft to racing hard. They might only last a few years and thats ok.
I can crank them back down when on the street.
Looks like the best deal. I think these are going in the C3 receipe.
http://www.madvet.com/shop?frame=4.190.1689
No they're not Bilsteins. I don't necessarily want the best shock, i want the firmest shock i can find for a reasonable price. These are only $50 each and are adjustable from soft to racing hard. They might only last a few years and thats ok.
I can crank them back down when on the street.
Looks like the best deal. I think these are going in the C3 receipe.
Last edited by turtlevette; May 11, 2006 at 09:47 PM.
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St. Jude Donor '07
Originally Posted by turtlevette
I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on these shocks.
No they're not Bilsteins. I don't necessarily want the best shock, i want the firmest shock i can find for a reasonable price. These are only $50 each and are adjustable from soft to racing hard. They might only last a few years and thats ok.
I can crank them back down when on the street.
Looks like the best deal. I think these are going in the C3 receipe.
No they're not Bilsteins. I don't necessarily want the best shock, i want the firmest shock i can find for a reasonable price. These are only $50 each and are adjustable from soft to racing hard. They might only last a few years and thats ok.
I can crank them back down when on the street.
Looks like the best deal. I think these are going in the C3 receipe.
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Melting Slicks
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St. Jude Donor '03,'11
TURTLE's Receipe
1. Wilwood brakes $600 - $800 Contact Corvette Engineering = Best bang for the buck.
2. Cheap 17" wheels and tires 275/40/17 minimum width (don't fool around with 45,50,55 or 60 series tires) $600
3. 550 front and 330 - 420lb fiberglass rear springs VBP $400
4. Poly or solid bushings everywhere $200
5. Aluminum radiator Griffin 2 row 1.25 tube $250.... Dewitts if you don't want to flip around with custom fitting.
6. Oil cooler $100
optional items
7. Aluminum L98 heads $400
8. 81 vette aluminum intake $30
9. Roll Bar $240 do it yourself or $800 - $1200 take it to a shop
10. 5 point harness $100
11. Single layer fire suit $100
12. Cut out excess pig iron 3 -5 days time.
13. Updated or racing seats (C4 seats work Ok) $200
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29. Big cube or hi po SBC for macho factor
OH,
I forgot the most important ingredent.
Quit all the benchracing crap and get out there and drive a road course
1. Wilwood brakes $600 - $800 Contact Corvette Engineering = Best bang for the buck.
2. Cheap 17" wheels and tires 275/40/17 minimum width (don't fool around with 45,50,55 or 60 series tires) $600
3. 550 front and 330 - 420lb fiberglass rear springs VBP $400
4. Poly or solid bushings everywhere $200
5. Aluminum radiator Griffin 2 row 1.25 tube $250.... Dewitts if you don't want to flip around with custom fitting.
6. Oil cooler $100
optional items
7. Aluminum L98 heads $400
8. 81 vette aluminum intake $30
9. Roll Bar $240 do it yourself or $800 - $1200 take it to a shop
10. 5 point harness $100
11. Single layer fire suit $100
12. Cut out excess pig iron 3 -5 days time.
13. Updated or racing seats (C4 seats work Ok) $200
.
.
29. Big cube or hi po SBC for macho factor
OH,
I forgot the most important ingredent.
Quit all the benchracing crap and get out there and drive a road course
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Melting Slicks
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St. Jude Donor '03,'11
Originally Posted by Twin_Turbo
the konis are about 400$ for a complete set, however...when you buy them they will last a lifetime. You'll probably never have to buy another set of shocks again.
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Melting Slicks
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St. Jude Donor '03,'11
I got my RCSI shocks today.
Playing with them it seems the adjustment has a far greater effect on rebound dampening than compression. I can't tell if the 9 position adjustment even changes the compression dampening.
On the stiffest settng i can barely pull the rod out of the shock body, but then again, i'm kind of a wienie.
Yep, these bad boys are stiff. My old KYBs hardly offer any resistance in either direction. Totally shot. I've been running road courses with effectively NO SHOCKS.
Looks like i should pick up some speed with these.
Playing with them it seems the adjustment has a far greater effect on rebound dampening than compression. I can't tell if the 9 position adjustment even changes the compression dampening.
On the stiffest settng i can barely pull the rod out of the shock body, but then again, i'm kind of a wienie.
Yep, these bad boys are stiff. My old KYBs hardly offer any resistance in either direction. Totally shot. I've been running road courses with effectively NO SHOCKS.
Looks like i should pick up some speed with these.
Last edited by turtlevette; May 18, 2006 at 09:13 PM.
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Groovy, I will be interested to see how shock tuning will help your handling. With your greater turn-in response from your new tires I bet the shocks will make a noticeable difference. When are you at the track again? I still haven't performed all of my fixes but the engine doesn't seem to be blowing smoke anymore. If I get things set there is a track day on Thurs the 25th. I'm aiming to make that.
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Heres some fuel for the fire. This is what an old book recomends. It's kind of small though. Hold on a minute while I upload it. I used google and found tiny pic and uploaded it through there.
Last edited by Voetsek; May 20, 2006 at 02:55 PM.
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Melting Slicks
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St. Jude Donor '03,'11
Originally Posted by Voetsek
Heres some fuel for the fire. This is what an old book recomends. It's kind of small though. Hold on a minute while I upload it. I used google and found tiny pic and uploaded it through there.
Thats a nice looking car.
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Originally Posted by turtlevette
Its hard to believe that combo would work that well. If that's the case we're all running too much spring on back.
Thats a nice looking car.
Thats a nice looking car.
Melting Slicks
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St. Jude Donor '12-'13-'14-'15-'16
turtle vette
I have been running Auto cross events for too many years. I was a Regional Champ in 76,77,78. Taught drivers school for several years. Today I run my 79 vett a few times a year. If I were you i would look into joining the local B.M.W. club in your area. You do not have to own a BMW to join and all the B.M.W. clubs run several autocross events a year and several High Speed Track events.
This past sunday the Windy City B.M.W. club had the 1st autocross. We had close to 90 cars sign up. Many Corvettes, some Vipers, Lotus, GTO, WRX, etc.
We had a high speed event at Elkhart Lake in early May. Over 200 cars.
High speed are broken down to drivers ability. You would not be allowed to run race tires as a novice at any track event.
At Elkhart my younger son ran his 318ti and it was fun watching him pass much faster cars running down the hurry down section of the track and then seeing him getting passed on the straight away by the same cars that made his look like it was in reverse.
You could also look into N.C.C.C. for events but they have so many rules you might over build your car(like me) and will not allow you to run. They do not run any track events either. I am a current officier in Northern Rays Corvette Club and a founding member.
This past sunday the Windy City B.M.W. club had the 1st autocross. We had close to 90 cars sign up. Many Corvettes, some Vipers, Lotus, GTO, WRX, etc.
We had a high speed event at Elkhart Lake in early May. Over 200 cars.
High speed are broken down to drivers ability. You would not be allowed to run race tires as a novice at any track event.
At Elkhart my younger son ran his 318ti and it was fun watching him pass much faster cars running down the hurry down section of the track and then seeing him getting passed on the straight away by the same cars that made his look like it was in reverse.
You could also look into N.C.C.C. for events but they have so many rules you might over build your car(like me) and will not allow you to run. They do not run any track events either. I am a current officier in Northern Rays Corvette Club and a founding member.
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Melting Slicks
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St. Jude Donor '03,'11
Originally Posted by Bimmervet
I have been running Auto cross events for too many years. I was a Regional Champ in 76,77,78. :
Melting Slicks
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Originally Posted by Bimmervet
You could also look into N.C.C.C. for events but they have so many rules you might over build your car(like me) and will not allow you to run.
Originally Posted by Bimmervet
They do not run any track events either.