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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 05:41 PM
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What are your camber settings front and rear? Are you getting even tire temps across them? It's cornering pretty flat. Looks good.
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I wouldn't call it tire roll over so much as sidewall flex from lateral loading. .
what's the difference?. I wasn't happy at all when my 15" tires did that. Too much squishy feeling in the rear. I guess it depends on your driving style. I prefer 17" tires, i just need to get wider ones.
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what's the difference?. I wasn't happy at all when my 15" tires did that. Too much squishy feeling in the rear. I guess it depends on your driving style. I prefer 17" tires, i just need to get wider ones.

If a tire "rolls over", there is wear on the sidewalls. In this case there is so much grip that the wheel is pushing out relative to the tire contact patch. It's not as bad as it looks; it doesn't feel squishy or floaty at all. Also it may not be as much movement as it looks, I'm using 275/45-16's on 11" wheels, so the sidewall is stretched out a little to begin with.

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What are your camber settings front and rear? Are you getting even tire temps across them? It's cornering pretty flat. Looks good.
About negative 2.5f and 2r. I have only taken tire temps once, at an autocross, where I think getting meaningful temperature data is difficult at best; there are too many variables that can affect the temps from the time you're on the course to the time you take the readings. That said I don't have the numbers with me so I can't say exactly what they were. I tend to look more at the wear across the tire tread, which is typically very even in my case.
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by racervette69
In the pictures of the other cars, they are having excessive amounts of body roll, mostly on the rear this make the car feels like it is washing out . body roll

Also running a 475 rear springs and 700lb up front.

Hope this might help.
I am reluctant to go to higher rate springs. I'm already at 550/330. I drive my car to the events over 500 miles from home.
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 06:25 PM
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I am reluctant to go to higher rate springs. I'm already at 550/330. I drive my car to the events over 500 miles from home.
Adjustable spring rates are your friend.

That's a cool thing about leaf springs in that the spring rate can be easily adjusted by moving the mounts inward and outward. (ie Dual mount rear springs)

Adjustable coil-overs is always a good option, too. In the near future I'll be going to those.
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Kalway
Adjustable spring rates are your friend.

That's a cool thing about leaf springs in that the spring rate can be easily adjusted by moving the mounts inward and outward. (ie Dual mount rear springs)

Adjustable coil-overs is always a good option, too. In the near future I'll be going to those.
Or adjustable spring perches.
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Kalway
Adjustable coil-overs is always a good option, too.
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Or adjustable spring perches.
Same thing; the spring rate does not change by adjusting coilovers, however, only the ride height. With coilovers you have the benefit of quick spring changes for different rates
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Originally Posted by 69autoXr
Same thing; the spring rate does not change by adjusting coilovers, however, only the ride height. With coilovers you have the benefit of quick spring changes for different rates
I bet i could swap my rear leaf as quick or quicker than someone dismounting 2 coilovers and changing springs.

The front ain't that bad either, to bust a ball joint down and pop a different spring in.
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 12:31 PM
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I may have missed it but what are youguys running for steering? I saw someone mention steeroids but I can't believe all you road course guys are using it.

69autoXr - IMO that is one of the baddest vettes I have ever seen.

I have a lot of work to do to mine. New engine and tranny so far. Starting to consider suspension. I don't mind a rough ride. I want something to go where I point it. Weekend cruise, solo events, maybe autoX if I get the bug.

Go to the gallery to see what I started with and where I'm at now.


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I bet i could swap my rear leaf as quick or quicker than someone dismounting 2 coilovers and changing springs.

The front ain't that bad either, to bust a ball joint down and pop a different spring in.
Can you do it in 5 minutes? All it takes is removing the lower bolt, turning the collar (& lock collar if you have that) so they thread off the bottom of the shock, remove spring, insert new, thread collar (& optional lock collar) back on and put the lower bolt back in.
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Originally Posted by turtlevette
I bet i could swap my rear leaf as quick or quicker than someone dismounting 2 coilovers and changing springs.

The front ain't that bad either, to bust a ball joint down and pop a different spring in.

Agreed. Changing rear springs is nothing. Fronts are a little more involved.
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Originally Posted by 71CanAm
I may have missed it but what are youguys running for steering? I saw someone mention steeroids but I can't believe all you road course guys are using it.

69autoXr - IMO that is one of the baddest vettes I have ever seen.

I have a lot of work to do to mine. New engine and tranny so far. Starting to consider suspension. I don't mind a rough ride. I want something to go where I point it. Weekend cruise, solo events, maybe autoX if I get the bug.

Go to the gallery to see what I started with and where I'm at now.


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Thanks for the compliment. Running stock power steering.
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by turtlevette
I bet i could swap my rear leaf as quick or quicker than someone dismounting 2 coilovers and changing springs.

The front ain't that bad either, to bust a ball joint down and pop a different spring in.
I've changed mine about 10 times

I'm going to take it out again today

Does this look right for a 5-leaf?




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Originally Posted by 71CanAm
I may have missed it but what are youguys running for steering? I saw someone mention steeroids but I can't believe all you road course guys are using it.

69autoXr - IMO that is one of the baddest vettes I have ever seen.

I have a lot of work to do to mine. New engine and tranny so far. Starting to consider suspension. I don't mind a rough ride. I want something to go where I point it. Weekend cruise, solo events, maybe autoX if I get the bug.

Go to the gallery to see what I started with and where I'm at now.


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Not many people are using steeroids.
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Does this look right for a 5-leaf?
It looks like it has a lot of arch, but when you set it down it looks right.
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Now I have another problem. The bolts are too short. And 5/8 doesn't go in. I guess I'll make spacers
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Chris,

That thing is gonna be so very tail happy with that stiff rear spring and huge rear bar.

I guess that works good for autocrossing though.
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The bottom one isn't mine

This is mine




the bottom one is a C2 sebring racer. I believe the long arms cancel out the thickness though. It has the front tie rods like norvals to have no bumpsteer also. They came in a 400 dollar rig also
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Originally Posted by 71CanAm
I may have missed it but what are youguys running for steering? I saw someone mention steeroids but I can't believe all you road course guys are using it.

69autoXr - IMO that is one of the baddest vettes I have ever seen.

I have a lot of work to do to mine. New engine and tranny so far. Starting to consider suspension. I don't mind a rough ride. I want something to go where I point it. Weekend cruise, solo events, maybe autoX if I get the bug.

Go to the gallery to see what I started with and where I'm at now.


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My car was originally a Big Block. Doesn't it have 550s in the front then? If so what improvements to the setup should I make. What about the rear? It is a stock 8-leaf.
Not sure on the bar sizes but they are stock big block.

Current engine is 383 with Aluminum radiator/SPAL with fans so I have dropped a little weight in the front.

A lot of good knowledge in this thread.
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