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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 08:48 PM
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Running 388ci, 10.25 compression, MSD 6A ignition.
Any recommendations on optimum spark plug gap? (MSD recommends .050-.060, but that seems rather large)
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I run .035" on my race plugs, that is what they recommend, I tired .045" just for fun the other day and it would not start, I put them all back to .035" and it started right up. I don't understand this but it happened, maybe a fluke or something or maybe 11:1CR coupled with a few other things on the motor make it like .035" better
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i'm currently reading a book on chevy big blocks MSD they recommend gapping plugs at .050
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 10:35 PM
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Thanks. I am at .025 Autolite race plugs (sidegaps). I think I'll bump up to .035 to start.
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I run .035" on my race plugs, that is what they recommend, I tired .045" just for fun the other day and it would not start, I put them all back to .035" and it started right up. I don't understand this but it happened, maybe a fluke or something or maybe 11:1CR coupled with a few other things on the motor make it like .035" better

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I've always gapped my plugs at .035 and go from there. I run it for a while and check the plugs. Then open them a litlle and run them. When I get to the point where it rdoesn't run so good I close them a little. I've found out from experience that .045 to .050 seems to be the range my systems like and runs the best at. Race Plugs almost always recommend a gap of .035.
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Originally Posted by Highhat
Thanks. I am at .025 Autolite race plugs (sidegaps). I think I'll bump up to .035 to start.
WOW .025 !!!??? No wonder my Autolite AR133 sidegaps wouldn't spark. Mine were .045. HIGHHAT, Where did you see the recomended gap as .025? Or were you just freelancing?
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I didnt see 0.25. The guy who installed the angine after rebuild by another put them in that way. I happen to take one out to check, and then another, and they measured at .025. It turns out that is about where they are gapped out of the box. But, the MSD site recommends .050-.060 for my compression --which I thought was rather large.
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WOW .025 !!!??? No wonder my Autolite AR133 sidegaps wouldn't spark. Mine were .045. HIGHHAT, Where did you see the recomended gap as .025? Or were you just freelancing?
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Originally Posted by Highhat
Running 388ci, 10.25 compression, MSD 6A ignition.
Any recommendations on optimum spark plug gap? (MSD recommends .050-.060, but that seems rather large)
With the MSD you should be able to run at .05 easily. The MSD will handle this resulting in a cleaner burn...
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Thanks.
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With the MSD you should be able to run at .05 easily. The MSD will handle this resulting in a cleaner burn...
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Be careful with going to an excessive gap on a high compression and/or high performance engine. As cylinder pressure increases, the resistance across the plug gap increases. Eventually, resistance across the gap gets so high that the plug does not fire. If you have an ignition system with a lot of power (like an MSD), the spark will find the least resistant path to ground once the plug gap resistance gets too high. This will result in the ignition system crossfiring inside the cap, across plug wires, or anywhere other than at the plug gap. It has nothing to do with the MSD system: You are limited by the relative resistance across the plug versus resistance other places in the system. If you have lots of system power, the spark will arc someplace other than the plug. For this reason, high performance/high compression engines will usually run .035" gaps, and seldom more than .040". The stock HEI systems on our Vettes used very big gaps becasue they were very low compression engines. If you bump compression up, keep the plug gap modest.
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Originally Posted by lars
Be careful with going to an excessive gap on a high compression and/or high performance engine. As cylinder pressure increases, the resistance across the plug gap increases. Eventually, resistance across the gap gets so high that the plug does not fire. If you have an ignition system with a lot of power (like an MSD), the spark will find the least resistant path to ground once the plug gap resistance gets too high. This will result in the ignition system crossfiring inside the cap, across plug wires, or anywhere other than at the plug gap. It has nothing to do with the MSD system: You are limited by the relative resistance across the plug versus resistance other places in the system. If you have lots of system power, the spark will arc someplace other than the plug. For this reason, high performance/high compression engines will usually run .035" gaps, and seldom more than .040". The stock HEI systems on our Vettes used very big gaps becasue they were very low compression engines. If you bump compression up, keep the plug gap modest.
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Originally Posted by lars
Be careful with going to an excessive gap on a high compression and/or high performance engine. As cylinder pressure increases, the resistance across the plug gap increases. Eventually, resistance across the gap gets so high that the plug does not fire. If you have an ignition system with a lot of power (like an MSD), the spark will find the least resistant path to ground once the plug gap resistance gets too high. This will result in the ignition system crossfiring inside the cap, across plug wires, or anywhere other than at the plug gap. It has nothing to do with the MSD system: You are limited by the relative resistance across the plug versus resistance other places in the system. If you have lots of system power, the spark will arc someplace other than the plug. For this reason, high performance/high compression engines will usually run .035" gaps, and seldom more than .040". The stock HEI systems on our Vettes used very big gaps becasue they were very low compression engines. If you bump compression up, keep the plug gap modest.
Excellent... As Usual Lars.. Thanks

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Originally Posted by lars
Be careful with going to an excessive gap on a high compression and/or high performance engine. As cylinder pressure increases, the resistance across the plug gap increases. Eventually, resistance across the gap gets so high that the plug does not fire. If you have an ignition system with a lot of power (like an MSD), the spark will find the least resistant path to ground once the plug gap resistance gets too high. This will result in the ignition system crossfiring inside the cap, across plug wires, or anywhere other than at the plug gap. It has nothing to do with the MSD system: You are limited by the relative resistance across the plug versus resistance other places in the system. If you have lots of system power, the spark will arc someplace other than the plug. For this reason, high performance/high compression engines will usually run .035" gaps, and seldom more than .040". The stock HEI systems on our Vettes used very big gaps becasue they were very low compression engines. If you bump compression up, keep the plug gap modest.
Excellent advice......I've always used the closer (.030-.035) gaps, as they have provided slightly better top end performance at the strip.
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Originally Posted by lars
Be careful with going to an excessive gap on a high compression and/or high performance engine. As cylinder pressure increases, the resistance across the plug gap increases. Eventually, resistance across the gap gets so high that the plug does not fire. If you have an ignition system with a lot of power (like an MSD), the spark will find the least resistant path to ground once the plug gap resistance gets too high. This will result in the ignition system crossfiring inside the cap, across plug wires, or anywhere other than at the plug gap. It has nothing to do with the MSD system: You are limited by the relative resistance across the plug versus resistance other places in the system. If you have lots of system power, the spark will arc someplace other than the plug. For this reason, high performance/high compression engines will usually run .035" gaps, and seldom more than .040". The stock HEI systems on our Vettes used very big gaps becasue they were very low compression engines. If you bump compression up, keep the plug gap modest.

Thanks Lars backs up my thinking as to why mine would not start at .045"
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