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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 08:17 PM
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Have any of you heard about injecting foam inside the frame to help stiffen it? What type of foam are they using? Can the foam cans that you buy from Home Depo work? I have a 68 convertible and any frame stiffening that can be done would help.
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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 08:45 PM
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I would think that that would retain the water in there. And you know how we all love rust!
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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 08:46 PM
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I did it.
I have had forum members poo poo the idea because it will trap moisture.
I had the frame powdercoated before the foam injection and the foam seems to seal to the powder quite well.
I recommend the interior surface is cleaned and sealed before the foam is applied.
Now the important part, did it make any difference?
I believe it did. My 68 Vert used to rattle and squeak all over the place. The foam and seam welding the chassis took all of that out of the car. There was 5 years between the "a" and "b" test drives but she is a much nicer car to drive now.
The chassis still flexes a bit when putting it on stands (door gaps open up) but nothing like it used to do. The foam does add stiffness but it also acts as a damper so the chassis can't get into any resonance when driving.
The foam I used was supplied by a specialist and I can't remember the exact brand and formula used but it cost me 2 slabs of beer. The chassis has to be bare so it can be manouvered around to get the foam into all the nooks before it expands
I think it was worthwhile.
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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 09:21 PM
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That’s great to know. As for retaining moisture and causing rust I would think it would help seal it out. But I don’t know that for a fact. I may try to locate someone who can do this for me if it only costs some beer.
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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 09:32 PM
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Hey the new F150 has the frame filled with foam. They tought it for noise reduction. Can't make it rust that fast or they wouldn't warranty it.
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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by TheMongoose
Hey the new F150 has the frame filled with foam. They tought it for noise reduction. Can't make it rust that fast or they wouldn't warranty it.
Is that the same Ford that made the Pinto and the Roll-over....I mean Explorer?
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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 09:58 PM
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[Is that the same Ford that made the Pinto and the Roll-over....I mean Explorer? [/QUOTE]

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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by TheMongoose
Hey the new F150 has the frame filled with foam. They tought it for noise reduction. Can't make it rust that fast or they wouldn't warranty it.
Yep ... it also has a freakin' MAGNESIUM radiator support. Whatcha think the frame & body shop guys are gonna think of that ?... they won't be able to pull it when it gets tweaked ... you'll pay BIG$ to replace it. NVH (noise vibration harshness) reduction has become an engineering specialty of its own ... really an art. Too bad some of em seem to have been inspired by Salvador Dali.
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If ya have a flood it will float If you ever want to take the foam out what a job that would be!
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Originally Posted by big_G
Is that the same Ford that made the Pinto and the Roll-over....I mean Explorer?
I think you mean the Pinto and the 'Exploder'.....
Mike
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 10:38 AM
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Fact is foam shrinks over time whether you drive it or not, it's simple aging process. Ford may be putting it in their frames but they also are selling a consumer vehicle with an intended operating life of 5-6 years.

I personally would like to think the frame of my Vet won't starting rotting due to trapped moisture when the foam shrinks in 5-6 years time. It's made it nearly 30 years and I'd like to think it could make it another 30 with the proper TLC. Foam in the frame just is too risky IMHO.
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Originally Posted by big_G
Is that the same Ford that made the Pinto and the Roll-over....I mean Explorer?
big_G... I'm crushed that you would make such a statement... truly crushed...
Besides, we all saw how the Chevy pickups catch fire when you run into the side of them... why it was all over the national news and they wouldn't make that stuff up... would they...???

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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 02:22 PM
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Chevy's Pinto was the 1979 Chevrolet Malibu.
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 78pacer
I think you mean the Pinto and the 'Exploder'.....
Mike
Yup.....I had to rebuild my 94 "Exploder" tranny at 165K. Now at 200K with original exhaust system, original rotors, original etc., I finally had to foam fill my rocker panals to stave off the rust through - and it has worked for at least the last winter season. That sticky old Home Depot high expansion foam came out of every hole and crack on the bottom of the vehicle and wheel wells, but after cutting off the excess with a blade, and painting it over black, no more major deterioration from the inside. Don't know why it wouldn't buy some time on a Vette. Don't try to weld on the frame afterwards, tho
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 10:57 PM
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I am in the process now. I am using POR 15 on the outside of frame than going to have all the inside Z-bart. My brother lives in Pa where road salt takes its toll and he had his truck done like this several years ago.
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