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Dec 22, 2005 | 02:46 PM

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Budman68

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Originally Posted by norvalwilhelm

I'm sorry because most of my specialty things are hand made. You are limited to washers. I have had a machine shop so long I think everyone has access to one. I have been custom building parts for 40 years and it become natural to think in terms of making anything you want.

I guess I could find some bar stock and start there. I'll try Baer and see if they will sell some.

Dec 22, 2005 | 02:56 PM

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Budman68

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St. Jude Donor '07

Go kart parts

Another place

Looks like they are easier to find than I thought.

Dec 22, 2005 | 04:41 PM

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redvetracr

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Originally Posted by Taijutsu

For those of us that do not weld, is there a kit? What will I gain in handling?

Rick

Guldstrand sells (or sold) a "bump steer kit", it is a pair of triangular blocks that bolts to the steering arm and the outer tierod bolts to the block. Racers FOR YEARS have been buying this kit (or stealing the idea and making their own) so if it worked for them it will work for you. What will you gain?? in a word "probably nothing" unless your car sees racing action.
...redvetracr

Dec 22, 2005 | 05:36 PM

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groovyjay

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Has anyone used this kit:

http://www.vbandp.com/detail.aspx?ID=583

Any real world comments about it?

Dec 22, 2005 | 05:38 PM

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Twin_Turbo

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Looks like a copy of the guldstrand kit

Dec 22, 2005 | 05:41 PM

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groovyjay

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Originally Posted by Twin_Turbo

Looks like a copy of the guldstrand kit

It sure does...

I'd still like to hear if anyone has actually used this on their cars? I get some BS on the C3-R with the nose heavily lowered. It's on my to do list this winter, I have the BS gauge on order, once it gets here I'll look into it. That seems like a very simple solution if it works...

Dec 22, 2005 | 06:19 PM

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norvalwilhelm

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From: Waterloo ontario Canada

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Originally Posted by groovyjay

Has anyone used this kit:

http://www.vbandp.com/detail.aspx?ID=583

Any real world comments about it?

No real world experience but it will increase your turning radius and costs alot.

Dec 22, 2005 | 06:58 PM

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groovyjay

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No real world experience but it will increase your turning radius and costs alot.

No way I would buy one for that price, looks like an easy one to fabricate. Increased turning radius is a big minus in my books. Any chance you might start fabricating more of those custom front spindles?

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Dec 23, 2005 | 10:23 AM

#49

hosspowerinc

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From: Murphy NC

Does anyone know where you could get the stud that they use in the steeriods kit? It looks like if you used that with a few spacers it would work well. I was looking for one on the coleman racing site but couldnt find one. Any leads? I should be more specific. Its the outer tierod that bolts into the heim joint.

Dec 23, 2005 | 10:38 AM

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Twin_Turbo

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stud? do they now have an adjustable outer tie rod adjuster? If so..it's most likely from speedwaymotors, it's for use w/ a 5/8th heim joint. No ide why they would supply such a thing as most installers will bolt the kit on and forget about it, the stud is for precise adjustments to set the proper bump steer (actually tie rod angle)

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/xq/asp...qx/Product.htm

Dec 23, 2005 | 10:58 AM

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hosspowerinc

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From: Murphy NC

Thats exactly what Im looking for. The kit they have comes preassembled with the stud and heim. I guess they have it shimmed approx to get better results but not exact.

Dec 23, 2005 | 11:11 AM

#52

UKPaul

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Thanks for the info Norval

Dec 23, 2005 | 11:25 AM

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norvalwilhelm

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This is ok for finding what you need but not for street driving. It flexes too much when the spacer gets longer then 1 inch. I use them to get the length of the spacer and then make a spacer that length and weld it to the steering arm. They even recommend this.
Do not add too many spacers and then continually drive like that on the street. It will bend the stud and it does flex.
I have them and don't recommend them for more then a tool to find what you need to drop the outer tie rod.
As for strut rods I bought 2 beautiful black anodized ones for Doug/carguy4sure 14 inches long, tapped left and right from Grisdale web site info@grisdale.com
These guys can supply any length of strut rod and they are about $13 CDN and rod ends left and right are only $13 CDN also.

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