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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 10:05 PM
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Well, changing the rear shocks has turned into more of a project than anticipated (what's new).
One of the shock mounts was stripped, so I ordered two new ones. After discovering some loose bolts on one of the half shafts, I started checking everything else and I discovered that the spring-to-diff bolts were loose and, as far as I can tell, not grade 8.
So, I was just going to go down to the hardware store and get some new ones, but I want to make sure I get the right size(s).
I dont think the previous owner had the correct ones in there because he had two different sizes in the rear holes.
Could someone tell me what size they are supposed to be on a 1969? I know they are 7/16-14, but I want to get the correct length, esp on the front of the diff.
Also, what should these be torqued to?

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Anyone?
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I just replaced the spring on my '72 last weekend. I still have the old bolts for the plate holding the spring to the diff, so I'll measure them tonight and post the length for you. Unless someone else beats me to the punch!

I also seem to recall the Chevy Shop Manual indicating 70# of torque for these guys.
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 11:57 AM
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Great! thanks for the help.

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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 12:14 PM
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Scott, there are two different rear covers. One for most cars (and probably yours) '63-'77 with 2.25" wide rear spring uses 9/16-12 x 3.5" bolts and the other for '78-'79which uses 7/16" bolts and a 2.5" spring. I don't know the lenght on those but I can get it if you really need it.
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 12:39 PM
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Weird!
Mine definitely has the later model rear end because it has 7/16 bolts.
I mostly need the length on the two front bolts so that I don't bust anything.
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 12:53 PM
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It must have been changed at some time. I'll crawl under the car and see what I can get for you. Is it cold enough for you today! It's 35 degrees out here and I have to drive out near Abilene this afternoon. I'm hoping we don't get any freezing rain or ice on the bridges.
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Ok, they are 3.25" long (shank and threads but not the head). Is that 70 ft/lb torque for the 9/16" bolts? I think 70 is a bit high for a 7/16 bolt. Maybe 55 or 60 would be better.
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There is also diffrent lengths of bolts depending on how many spring leafs you have. I think zip list the bolt's lenth and size for 7 or 9 leafs in their book. Make sure you get the right length because you can bottom the bolt out and bust the rear cover.
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good point, mine is a 9 leaf spring on the '78.
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Scott,
I have the HD 2 1/4 rear end covers if you want to go back to correct.
Mike
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Burners- Thanks a bunch for checking that out for me. I hope you dont hit any of the slick stuff either! It's like 39 here.

wills670- D'oh! good call. Mine has the fiberglass monospring
Guess I'm just going to have to run different lengths in there (carefully) and see what fits.

tracdogg2- I'm not concerned with keeping it original (not much of it is anyway), but is there any advantage to the 2.25 cover?

alanbl- thanks for the offer!


thanks all for the help and responses
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Hi Scott,
It's the Muskegeon Brake HD cover. It's stronger around the spring bolts.
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First the weather report since all you Texans are reporting the cold 35 & 39 degree temps. Up here in one of the north counties of Texas (Colorado) the temp is -10 at my house. That's minus 10.

The bolt is 3 1/2" long and I had a 9 leaf spring, each leaf 2 1/4" wide. Confirmed that the shop manual calls for 70# torque while the assembly manual indicates 60-80#. Here it is:


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Originally Posted by alanbl
First the weather report since all you Texans are reporting the cold 35 & 39 degree temps. Up here in one of the north counties of Texas (Colorado) the temp is -10 at my house. That's minus 10.
I don't think our thermometers go below that round mark (0)!

Thanks again for checking that.
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1 quick note if using a new HD cover. They are very good and I use them in my jobs but the castings are off a little. I've had to fit everyone to the cross member because they didn't jsut bolt in.
Also the center to center on the 4 bolts is tighter so you may have to grind reliefs in the spring for bolt clearance or you'll roll the threads for sure.
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Originally Posted by Shrike
Weird!
Mine definitely has the later model rear end because it has 7/16 bolts.
I mostly need the length on the two front bolts so that I don't bust anything.

Or.... somebody installed a spring kit that included thread inserts .... common in aftermarket spring setups.

These kits reduce the thread size from the larger to the smaller. I've had to remove these on occasion.
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