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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 10:54 AM
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Do any of you have this problem that occurs with me quite often: This is concerning the filter nut (that takes a 1" box wrench to remove) that holds the bronze filter in the fuel inlet. I have replaced the red fiber filter nut gasket 3 times now during the past few years, but I still get a little fuel leak coming from the filter nut area. This leak does not happen all of the time. Sometimes I can drive all day and not have a drop. Other times, I can start the engine up and check under the hood while idling and find a few drips every minute or so come out around the filter nut area. It is not the plug on the end of the fuel inlet, but definitely coming from around the large filter nut. Their are no cracks around the fuel inlet area, since some days I can drive it with no leakage at all. I can tell you this, that it doesnt do it right after replacing the gasket in the filter nut, it happens the week after or so. Someone told me that their is a trick on screwing both the fuel line (5/8 inch) and the 1 inch filter nut in correctly so they dont work themselves out again. Can anyone enlighten me on this trick??? Thanks guys

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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 11:02 AM
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No leaks on my '68. I'm not sure there is a "trick" to this, but I always hold the carb fitting (the big one) with a wrench while tightening the fuel line fitting to it.
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 12:34 PM
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nothing comes to mind, other than it is very easy to strip the threads in the fuel inlet if you overtighten. Also you need a nice finished end on the fuel line so it won't leak. Not sure why it would be ok with a new gasket but start leaking a few days later.
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 02:46 PM
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I went to a local carb shop and got some of the plastic/nylon gaskets. I think they were like three for a dollar. Mine is leak-free. You don't over-tighten those or they will leak, too. That's one reason I only have one spare left.
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 03:03 PM
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thanks for the tips guys, but I was looking for something else. I dont have any permanent leaks, it just happens off and on. I need to know how to permanently tighten the filter nut so it doesnt come loose again.

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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 09:25 PM
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Don't know if this will help but I always use teflon tape on the nut and have never had a leak. God bless, Sensei
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 09:35 PM
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Tighten up the big nut to carb, then hold it with a wrench so that it doesn't move when you tighten the small nut.
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Old Jun 20, 2006 | 08:40 AM
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thanks Glenkov and Sensei, I will try the method of holding the large nut when tightening the smaller one. I dont know about the teflon idea, will that hurt the carb if particles of the teflon get into it???

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Old Jun 20, 2006 | 10:26 AM
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Since the nut does not seal on the threads (it's not pipe thread...), the Teflon tape actually has no sealing effect at all. Rather, what the Teflon is doing is acting as a thread lube to allow proper torque of the nut. Instead of using Teflon tape (which can cause particulate generation and contaimination of the carb), I recommend coating the threads on both the big carb inlet nut and the trhreads on the fuel line nut with white lithium assembly grease. This will allow you to get good tightening of the hardware without galling or damaging the threads, thus assuring a leak-free joint.
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Old Jun 20, 2006 | 02:17 PM
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thanks Lars, will try that idea...Hope it works!!! Hmmmmmm, white lithium assembly grease....hmmmmmmm, isnt that the same stuff you use on the power window tracks??

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Old Jun 20, 2006 | 02:32 PM
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thanks Lars, will try that idea...Hope it works!!! Hmmmmmm, white lithium assembly grease....hmmmmmmm, isnt that the same stuff you use on the power window tracks??

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That's the goop you put on your ball joints to keep em from squeeking.
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Old Jun 20, 2006 | 02:56 PM
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That's the goop you put on your ball joints to keep em from squeeking.

Gotcha!! thanks


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Old Jun 21, 2006 | 08:50 AM
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Well folks, I found out the worst yesterday, and I need everyones opinion on this again. Here's what happened: I tried to tighten the larger filter nut on the fuel inlet and it kept turning (everyones worst nightmare). I guess this means that the fuel inlet (which is made of pot metal) is stripped, since the filter nut is made of good quality steel. SO, now what do I have to do??? Buy a new carb completely, or do what a friend suggested and buy some kind of kit to repair the fuel inlet (I think a little larger filter nut that would go into the inlet, and it doesnt always work)...thanks for all of your help!

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Old Jun 21, 2006 | 11:30 AM
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e-mail me for my Services Info Sheet. I can correctly repair the inlet with new stainless steel threads. Do not use the commercially available "inlet thread repair" nuts or kits - they will destroy the carb casting.
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Old Jun 21, 2006 | 12:11 PM
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Thanks for your help Lars, I just now emailed you the request.



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Funny, after I read this thread I decided to check my fuel inlet this morning. Now I have a leak! It's just a few drips. I'll seal it this week.
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Kalway
Funny, after I read this thread I decided to check my fuel inlet this morning. Now I have a leak! It's just a few drips. I'll seal it this week.
thats exactly what I said to myself, and after I did it, I found that it was stripped. Hopefully yours is not. As for my problem, I emailed Lars with no reply yesterday, so I ordered a "numbers" carb for $217, guaranteed for 90 days. Good enough for me!!

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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 12:44 PM
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I went to a external fuel filter. Easier to get to and easier to change. I have a 68 427 (L36) and my numbers matching carb to the engine kept leaking also. Went external, solved problem.
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 01:04 PM
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I already have an external "canister" type fuel filter, the internal one in the carb is one of those bronze types.

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