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Old Oct 19, 2006 | 03:11 AM
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Previous owner must have ran something big over to muck up these footwells.
Can anyone take some pics of their footwells for me so I can see if I need to rebrake/cut my footwells so I have the proper dimensions so I can acheive proper pedal clearances?? Preferrably a 68 or 69. I don't know if they changed over the years. Bubba did a real shotty job of making it right. I'd really appreciate some head on pics and side view pics to see the contrours. I am thinking about cutting, using a peice of aluminum to shape the outside, then refiberglass the correct shape into place. have to do this tomorrow night to stay on schedule.
Short of pulling floor pans off a parts car, how would you guys fix it?
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Also......is there a smaller replacement vacume canister on the market?
Mine is freakin huge and sits between firewall and driver front wheel well. Honestly its the size of a bowling ball bag. There must be something smaller & more efficient on the market right?
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Old Oct 19, 2006 | 08:37 AM
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Jegs sells a vacuum can. It is about the size of a 1 lb. coffee can.
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Old Oct 19, 2006 | 08:54 AM
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Looks like the clutch exploded

I don't think you can run over something that big and not damage the front and/or oil pan or steering linkage.
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Old Oct 19, 2006 | 09:52 AM
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Looks like the clutch exploded

I don't think you can run over something that big and not damage the front and/or oil pan or steering linkage.
Steering linkage was fine as far as I could tell. I bought the car with an aftermarket 454 from a truck so I don't know if thats how he totalled the original engine. I've tried tracking down the previous owners via some internet research but they never returned any of my calls, and I didn't even say I wanted to punch them in the face. "I just wanted to learn more about the car", then find out where they live and then punch them in the face.
PO cut the footwell to gain full motion of the clutch fork. I still have the original 4spd that I rebuilt.
Thanks for the vacume can info, i'll check it out. Does it matter the size of the can?
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Old Oct 19, 2006 | 10:44 AM
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Its strange because the damage to the car you have is virtually identical to the damage that mine sustained prior to my getting it. The footwell of the passenger side is cracked from too many people pushing on it with BOTH feet. The driver side has a flywheel failure, driveshaft failure and the clutch fork clearance hole. What I did was used a peice of scrap sheet to back the repair, but drill holes in it to use wood screws to pull the panel into the sheet to keep it flat. The clutch fork hole I did repair, but I cut the area out and used a shaped peice of wood to mold a depression for the clutch fork. I know thats not "right" but its hard to see for one, and two the whole mechanism now has a bit more clearance. I have my 68 which looked like yours and an undamaged 70. I have never measured and compared them however...I may do that today.
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Old Oct 19, 2006 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 68 NJConv 454
.....is there a smaller replacement vacume canister on the market?Mine is freakin huge and sits between firewall and driver front wheel well. Honestly its the size of a bowling ball bag. There must be something smaller & more efficient on the market right?
Try a vacuum can for an '82. Still available from GM a few years back. Basically a tomato juice can with a bracket and some tubes sticking out of it.
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Old Oct 19, 2006 | 12:51 PM
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In your middle picture, (passenger floor underside), I'm looking at the underside of the rocker panel beside the chassis side rail, and it looks to me like fibreglass cloth material showing which doesn't look like stock.

There's not much detail from the picture, but it looks like further evidence of prior damage having been repaired.

You may want to post a photo of this area and get some more opinions.
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Old Oct 19, 2006 | 02:02 PM
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In your middle picture, (passenger floor underside), I'm looking at the underside of the rocker panel beside the chassis side rail, and it looks to me like fibreglass cloth material showing which doesn't look like stock.
There's not much detail from the picture, but it looks like further evidence of prior damage having been repaired.
You may want to post a photo of this area and get some more opinions.
That is fiberglass mat, the PO fitted those dang peices of pressureized wood, that is suppose to protect the footwells from debris, back on and then fiberglassed from the inside. I removed those peices of wood and found this. The PO attempted to "remedy" the situation by laying the fiberglass mat to cover the holes. (See third pic) that is how both footwells appear from the inside telling me he did a shioty job of fixing the boo-boo. As you can see in the first pic he used the fiberglass bondo that you use to bond the fenders to the body to repair the footwell's original cracked fiberglass. But in doing this he made the footwell very uneven and I'm afraid he cut down on pedal clearance...hence why I would like to compare the footwell shapes to someone's undamaged car.
My plan is to lay a 10inch by 20 inch peice of aluminum accross each footwell, shape it and rivet it to pull the original fiberglass to where i want it, then i will fiberglass the aluminum in to look smooth and waterproof while adding strength. I just wanted to check on clearances and how it was shaped from the factory.
Are all C3 footwells the same shape?
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Old Oct 19, 2006 | 03:24 PM
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The driver side I would say was caused by the clutch fork. You may want to check your body mounts. If they are gone "worn out" or worsts yet rusted rocker channels, the body will sit lower to the frame causing this condition. The passenger is I don't have an answer for other than a real heavy foot. Maybe something was thrown in the car at sometime. Both can be fixed.
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Old Oct 19, 2006 | 03:41 PM
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E-mail me or PM me your e-mail address.

I just took a few pictures of my 68 parts car for you.
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I wonder if that damage could have been caused by a poorly placed frame lift at Bubba's garage.
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Old Oct 19, 2006 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by w1ctc
I wonder if that damage could have been caused by a poorly placed frame lift at Bubba's garage.
looks like someone misplaced a jack stand...
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Old Oct 20, 2006 | 02:08 AM
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Might not look like progress but its a hell of a lot more secure and sturdy.
Ripped out all the half-azz fiberglassing the PO did to remedy/cover-up on the booboos. Broke all the bondo so the peices were free, then molded a 12" x 12" peice of alluminum into the inside footwell to push the broken fiberglass peices outward then riveted in place when i got the desired depth.
Tomorrow I will do the clutch fork hole and pass side then fiberglass over everything for added strength and make it look professional.
After the fiberglassing is done I might grind down the rivets so I don't feel them thru the carpet (doubt i will feel them anyway).
Thanks Rick for your pics of the unmolested 68 footwells & firewall.
They helped out a lot.









Also got the first few layers down on the batterbox that was missing its bottom I don't know what the heck the PO did with this car but it drives me insane to think someone was capable of such distruction of such a beautiful car.
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I'm just glad my photos were good enough
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