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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 08:44 PM
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I have posted videos of Angelo Valla's blue 72 before. He keeps making it go faster and faster. Here are his two most recent runs, including unfortunately a mishap that is scary to watch but sure could have been a lot worse.

http://www.challengevideos.com/video...s+a+test+pass+


7.93 @ 177 !


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http://www.challengevideos.com/video...+into+the+wall

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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 08:55 PM
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Wow that was close ! Did he break an axle ?
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 08:58 PM
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I'll bet the other guy had to change his shorts after that run!
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 09:11 PM
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I'll bet the other guy had to change his shorts after that run!
Angello probably had to change his too! That is TOOO FFFAST!
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 09:31 PM
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I was just watching and I think I am going to change my shorts. Did he take out the left side of the car?
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 09:43 PM
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 10:04 PM
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The guy in the C5 did a great job of driving. It very easily could of been a 2 car crash. If in doubt get out of the throttle. Ron B.
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 10:27 PM
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i get very overwhelmed when i see our cars get messed up. its one thing to be constantly taking them apart and working on them electively but a wreck is just a horrible thing. i wonder if haggerty covered that?
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It looks like he got out of the groove, got loose, got back into it and it got really loose;listen to the motor. If you get loose in a fast race car with a normal drag race rear end, and you lift, and then jump back into it you take a risk of it reacting like that. The car has the rear end loaded up correctly, you get loose (and lift) and it uploads (shocks go a little crazy along with weight distribution,etc) and when you put the power back to it sometimes the car will react in an unpredictable manner.

It is better to try to drive through the loose spot, rather than lift. Of course then you run the risk of it getting loose and tagging the wall anyway
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 69 N.O.X. RATT
It looks like he got out of the groove, got loose, got back into it and it got really loose;listen to the motor. If you get loose in a fast race car with a normal drag race rear end, and you lift, and then jump back into it you take a risk of it reacting like that. The car has the rear end loaded up correctly, you get loose (and lift) and it uploads (shocks go a little crazy along with weight distribution,etc) and when you put the power back to it sometimes the car will react in an unpredictable manner.

It is better to try to drive through the loose spot, rather than lift. Of course then you run the risk of it getting loose and tagging the wall anyway
You dont think that looks mechanical ? I thought at first it look like loss of traction on left but the more times I watched it-it looked like the maybe the line lock.If you watch it the nose takes 2 really abrupt dives after the front end is back on the ground and then the car turns left.Didnt look like he turned the steering wheel until after he was around.
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You dont think that looks mechanical ? I thought at first it look like loss of traction on left but the more times I watched it-it looked like the maybe the line lock.If you watch it the nose takes 2 really abrupt dives after the front end is back on the ground and then the car turns left.Didnt look like he turned the steering wheel until after he was around.
I do not think so....watch how far out of the groove he gets. He is way out to the right (and out of the prepped part of the race track) before he lifts. He stabs the throttle at least once trying to save the run and it gets out of control. All of the abrupt movement in the front end is what I was talking about...it unloads everything and things can go a little wacky. Most drag racing schools will tell you if you lift, do not get back into it.

If you look you can see the second time he gets into it he is way out of the groove and the drivers side rear tire leaves a black mark in the track.

The car sounds like a nitrous car on a progressive controller. Listen how the motor really comes alive when he releases the transbrake and continues to gain rpm and pitch as he is out past the 60' Also notice how the wheelie stays about the same height and carries the front tires for quite some time. This is the nitrous coming in on the controller. It would be very difficult to run a car at that weight with such a small tire and not have someway of ramping in the power.

Here is a video of my car from a while back. I bring in all the nitorus on the transbrake before the car leaves the line. You can hear the motor really come alive right before I leave the line. Watch how my car pops the front end up, but then sits it right back down. This is due to me being at full power as soon as I leave the line, as opposed to ramping it in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWWCYuWGSkw

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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 02:52 AM
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I have driven pro mod's and outlaw pro street,and I had a nitrous car do that,it left got loose went to the right peddled it,right when the nitrous sprayed it went hooked went turned left,hit the wall comeback across hit the right wall.

When you leave the nitrous is getting sprayed no matter what,and when air shifted it keeps shifting.You just don't lift in a car that fast.
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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 08:46 AM
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Details!!! Tell us what actually happened! PLEASE!
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Originally Posted by 69 N.O.X. RATT
I do not think so....watch how far out of the groove he gets. He is way out to the right (and out of the prepped part of the race track) before he lifts. He stabs the throttle at least once trying to save the run and it gets out of control. All of the abrupt movement in the front end is what I was talking about...it unloads everything and things can go a little wacky. Most drag racing schools will tell you if you lift, do not get back into it.

If you look you can see the second time he gets into it he is way out of the groove and the drivers side rear tire leaves a black mark in the track.

The car sounds like a nitrous car on a progressive controller. Listen how the motor really comes alive when he releases the transbrake and continues to gain rpm and pitch as he is out past the 60' Also notice how the wheelie stays about the same height and carries the front tires for quite some time. This is the nitrous coming in on the controller. It would be very difficult to run a car at that weight with such a small tire and not have someway of ramping in the power.

Here is a video of my car from a while back. I bring in all the nitorus on the transbrake before the car leaves the line. You can hear the motor really come alive right before I leave the line. Watch how my car pops the front end up, but then sits it right back down. This is due to me being at full power as soon as I leave the line, as opposed to ramping it in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWWCYuWGSkw
I appreciate the info John.
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Originally Posted by 69 N.O.X. RATT
I do not think so....watch how far out of the groove he gets. He is way out to the right (and out of the prepped part of the race track) before he lifts.
he is waaaaayy out to the right with the right rear
almost past the painted line.
it looks like when he goosed it the second time the left
rear broke traction (the rubber strip it laid down) the right
rear gripped pushing the car to the left.
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First vid was Nice car! I was wondering when I'd gwt to see a vid of 69 N.O.X. RATT making a pass!!!
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69 nox rat,Your vette looks really good 5's in the 1/8th is very respectable.

All this race talk I miss my 37.
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Details!!! Tell us what actually happened! PLEASE!
Which one of us.

Mine was it just got out of the groove,it was real cold and went it left the burnout path it went right,tried to peddle it.

As a racer the last thing you think about is shutin it off,and when you get in the 7's and 6's they aren't real controlable.
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69 nox rat,Your vette looks really good 5's in the 1/8th is very respectable.

All this race talk I miss my 37.
Thanks, it runs better than is should maybe. This motor combination is a pump gas, street 454 with oval port heads, small solid roller, Holley 1000, 10.7 to 1 compression, etc. The 300 shot of nitrous helps !!! I hope to get into the 4.6-4.8 range with the 14 to 1, 555 I am building.
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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 02:03 PM
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John nice run,real nice !!! Thanks for the explanation on the video.
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