Fast C3 gets faster!
Melting Slicks
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From: Mo
Originally Posted by 69 N.O.X. RATT
Thanks, it runs better than is should maybe. This motor combination is a pump gas, street 454 with oval port heads, small solid roller, Holley 1000, 10.7 to 1 compression, etc. The 300 shot of nitrous helps !!! I hope to get into the 4.6-4.8 range with the 14 to 1, 555 I am building.
that's awesome out of a pg motor,555 should be real fast.
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Both runs were at Etown last Saturday at the corvette challenge Pro8. More discussion in the dragrace forum, but not really much about the actual mishap. I don't think anything broke to cause the accident, and damage was relatively minor. Car usually runs straight down the track but it's just a whole lot of power. I think what he is saying here is that after that first run(the first video) went 7.93 @ 177 mph he upped the power in an attempt to go even faster, and it was the extra power that caused him to lose control and hit the wall.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...27&postcount=1
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...27&postcount=1
Last edited by PRNDL; Nov 22, 2006 at 08:45 PM.
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Originally Posted by 69 N.O.X. RATT
I do not think so....watch how far out of the groove he gets. He is way out to the right (and out of the prepped part of the race track) before he lifts. He stabs the throttle at least once trying to save the run and it gets out of control. All of the abrupt movement in the front end is what I was talking about...it unloads everything and things can go a little wacky. Most drag racing schools will tell you if you lift, do not get back into it.
If you look you can see the second time he gets into it he is way out of the groove and the drivers side rear tire leaves a black mark in the track.
The car sounds like a nitrous car on a progressive controller. Listen how the motor really comes alive when he releases the transbrake and continues to gain rpm and pitch as he is out past the 60' Also notice how the wheelie stays about the same height and carries the front tires for quite some time. This is the nitrous coming in on the controller. It would be very difficult to run a car at that weight with such a small tire and not have someway of ramping in the power.
Here is a video of my car from a while back. I bring in all the nitorus on the transbrake before the car leaves the line. You can hear the motor really come alive right before I leave the line. Watch how my car pops the front end up, but then sits it right back down. This is due to me being at full power as soon as I leave the line, as opposed to ramping it in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWWCYuWGSkw
If you look you can see the second time he gets into it he is way out of the groove and the drivers side rear tire leaves a black mark in the track.
The car sounds like a nitrous car on a progressive controller. Listen how the motor really comes alive when he releases the transbrake and continues to gain rpm and pitch as he is out past the 60' Also notice how the wheelie stays about the same height and carries the front tires for quite some time. This is the nitrous coming in on the controller. It would be very difficult to run a car at that weight with such a small tire and not have someway of ramping in the power.
Here is a video of my car from a while back. I bring in all the nitorus on the transbrake before the car leaves the line. You can hear the motor really come alive right before I leave the line. Watch how my car pops the front end up, but then sits it right back down. This is due to me being at full power as soon as I leave the line, as opposed to ramping it in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWWCYuWGSkw
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From: Dix Hills New York
Originally Posted by PRNDL
Both runs were at Etown last Saturday at the corvette challenge Pro8. More discussion in the dragrace forum, but not really much about the actual mishap. I don't think anything broke to cause the accident, and damage was relatively minor. Car usually runs straight down the track but it's just a whole lot of power. I think what he is saying here is that after that first run(the first video) went 7.93 @ 177 mph he upped the power in an attempt to go even faster, and it was the extra power that caused him to lose control and hit the wall.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...27&postcount=1
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...27&postcount=1
Crushed the headers on that side , bent rims ,shifted and bent rear and 4 link brackets, shocks ,body needs to be redone on left sideect...not so cheap ,alot of work. Thanks again ..what do u drive? class? Did I mention I won the pro-8 series for 06' ?
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Originally Posted by C3AV
Where do I start, been testing the car for years...The prior pass the car went 7.93 @ 177... and it was straight and didnt lift the wheels more than 6 inches, SO now it was time to put some power in! As u can see the chassis didnt like it ,nor did I,hooked right ,right tire caught the painted surface, saw the wall ,came off the pedal,as usual, (the car has aprox. 70 + passes this year, each one a handfull)this time power had been turned up,sun went away ,cold track...got back into the pedal to elimnate the first round opponent, broke one tire loose and it came around...Been workin on the car steady each night, tryin to go to Virginia in Feb. ---Where are u guys from? The car weighs 3400 w/ dr....has gone 5.1 in 1/8 th, has stock frame rails in the rear,stock tubs and a dana w/ 3.73 gears...thanks for the interest, hope to meet some of u soon
BTW, I'm in Orlando. Do you ever go to the Street Nationals?
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From: Dix Hills New York
I was there w/ my buddy,(orlando-06') 4 days...he has a silver 01' vette,back turbo---we went 7.8 and three rounds... Radials class,his car cranks. Thanks about my c-3,what do u run? are u in a corvette challenge?
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Originally Posted by C3AV
I was there w/ my buddy,(orlando-06') 4 days...he has a silver 01' vette,back turbo---we went 7.8 and three rounds... Radials class,his car cranks. Thanks about my c-3,what do u run? are u in a corvette challenge?
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From: Pettis Performance 565 with two stages of Nitrous Supply nitrous 1.082, 4.61 at 155, 7.17 at 192
Originally Posted by C3AV
Where do I start, been testing the car for years...The prior pass the car went 7.93 @ 177... and it was straight and didnt lift the wheels more than 6 inches, SO now it was time to put some power in! As u can see the chassis didnt like it ,nor did I,hooked right ,right tire caught the painted surface, saw the wall ,came off the pedal,as usual, (the car has aprox. 70 + passes this year, each one a handfull)this time power had been turned up,sun went away ,cold track...got back into the pedal to elimnate the first round opponent, broke one tire loose and it came around...Been workin on the car steady each night, tryin to go to Virginia in Feb. ---Where are u guys from? The car weighs 3400 w/ dr....has gone 5.1 in 1/8 th, has stock frame rails in the rear,stock tubs and a dana w/ 3.73 gears...thanks for the interest, hope to meet some of u soon
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From: Dix Hills New York
Ok...ok...
MSD box 7351 digital, u gotta have this . The ramp is out of the gate,retards the timing 5' for 1 second , this is all adjustable. 632 cu. in.............598 in 05'...,11.5 comp., steel block ,big chief heads,wet sump,single 4, powerglide trans. 3.73 gears,29.5 x 10.5 M/T ,two stage fogger, 3400 lbs. should go alot faster ,BUT chassis is not up to date ,some say old school, thats why its always a handfull. Car was set up w/ 4 link in 1996 for NMCA 10.5 class--RULES: any car , but must retain the original frame rails ,wheel tubs,stock location of engine. Car is still set up for that, it has alot of street cruise miles and aprox.300-400 passes. This winter car will be updated slightly,it cost way too much to cut everything out and start all over. Im havin a great time every time we go racin... I made alot of mistakes,learned alot..always willing to help others,always learning new and trying new parts ,methods ,ideas..I have a gret lesson learned about NOS foggers,dont know if im boring u? Angelo There is alot more info? Tell me some specs on ur car and how u tune?
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From: Pettis Performance 565 with two stages of Nitrous Supply nitrous 1.082, 4.61 at 155, 7.17 at 192
Originally Posted by C3AV
MSD box 7351 digital, u gotta have this . The ramp is out of the gate,retards the timing 5' for 1 second , this is all adjustable. 632 cu. in.............598 in 05'...,11.5 comp., steel block ,big chief heads,wet sump,single 4, powerglide trans. 3.73 gears,29.5 x 10.5 M/T ,two stage fogger, 3400 lbs. should go alot faster ,BUT chassis is not up to date ,some say old school, thats why its always a handfull. Car was set up w/ 4 link in 1996 for NMCA 10.5 class--RULES: any car , but must retain the original frame rails ,wheel tubs,stock location of engine. Car is still set up for that, it has alot of street cruise miles and aprox.300-400 passes. This winter car will be updated slightly,it cost way too much to cut everything out and start all over. Im havin a great time every time we go racin... I made alot of mistakes,learned alot..always willing to help others,always learning new and trying new parts ,methods ,ideas..I have a gret lesson learned about NOS foggers,dont know if im boring u? Angelo There is alot more info? Tell me some specs on ur car and how u tune?
I am building a 555 with the goal of going faster than 7.5
Burning Brakes
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Originally Posted by C3AV
pef427...your care is unbelievable...any pics?
I appreciate the compliment but I would be honored to use my car as your "Tow Vehicle". I have followed your car for months now thru the CF and love it. I would like to pick your brain on the 4-link setup. I'm in the process of putting parts together to convert mine to a 4-link without cutting the original frame or tubs. Any tips?
-Patrick
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Tell me more pef427
Do u have a 598? I have no prob. sending u pics. just need about a month to straighten out the crash...or u can have some pics the way it is? need e-mail add. .....urs is convertable. ?
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Angelo...that is one bad boy ride you have there!! I've always liked seeing fast C-2's and C-3's!
Pef427 is deep into doing a solid axle swap in his car, so any pics or help you can give would be great.
I've got a custom Dana 60 IRS under my '67 and I can vouch for the fact it's a handful as it is and I've only got a 540 N/A!! A 632 on the juice and running 7's is killer!!
Looking forward to seeing it back in action and best of all glad to see you walked away from it !!
JIM
Pef427 is deep into doing a solid axle swap in his car, so any pics or help you can give would be great.
I've got a custom Dana 60 IRS under my '67 and I can vouch for the fact it's a handful as it is and I've only got a 540 N/A!! A 632 on the juice and running 7's is killer!!
Looking forward to seeing it back in action and best of all glad to see you walked away from it !!
JIM
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jim
send some pictures of all ur cars
wabang5@aol.com is he going to put a dana 60 in w/ the 4 link? what size tires do u want to use ? is there a cage yet?
wabang5@aol.com is he going to put a dana 60 in w/ the 4 link? what size tires do u want to use ? is there a cage yet?
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From: Dix Hills New York
Originally Posted by 427Hotrod
Angelo...that is one bad boy ride you have there!! I've always liked seeing fast C-2's and C-3's!
Pef427 is deep into doing a solid axle swap in his car, so any pics or help you can give would be great.
I've got a custom Dana 60 IRS under my '67 and I can vouch for the fact it's a handful as it is and I've only got a 540 N/A!! A 632 on the juice and running 7's is killer!!
Looking forward to seeing it back in action and best of all glad to see you walked away from it !!
JIM
Pef427 is deep into doing a solid axle swap in his car, so any pics or help you can give would be great.
I've got a custom Dana 60 IRS under my '67 and I can vouch for the fact it's a handful as it is and I've only got a 540 N/A!! A 632 on the juice and running 7's is killer!!
Looking forward to seeing it back in action and best of all glad to see you walked away from it !!
JIM
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From: Nederland Texas
Originally Posted by C3AV
send some pictures of all ur cars wabang5@aol.com is he going to put a dana 60 in w/ the 4 link? what size tires do u want to use ? is there a cage yet?
wabang5@aol.com is he going to put a dana 60 in w/ the 4 link? what size tires do u want to use ? is there a cage yet?You have mail.
-P