Great luck with all that...and get that frig'n battery charged. I don't want to miss a moment of that install.

 

I've got a 88 305 Camaro chip in my 165 ecm, I will need a new chip because (amongst other things) of the 24/30lb injectors I'll be using, I've also plugged the 5th injector holes and will be going with a 89 style cold start system.

 

Ok I changed the battery in the camera.
Here are the pics of the fuel lines. Since I am using an F-body fuel rail the connections are on the left side of the engine. With some careful bending (and sticking my tounge out just right for effect) I was able to route the fuel lines behind the water pump.

I removed the factory mechanical pump, and installed a chrome (the only piece on the engine) block off plate. On the factory F-body fuel lines there is a swedged area about three inches from the end ( can see in the pics below) that connects to the factory rubber hose. I cut the steel lines here leaving the swedge, and removed any burs. this gives something for the clamps to hold against to prevent hos slippage.
I also had to bubble flare the end of the lines from the tank for the same reason (not fun to do bent over a fender with 3/8 lines).
The fuel filter is a universal 10 micron commonly found on (late '80s 2.5 liter Dodge cars with MPI & Turbo). I double clamped the pressure side of the system for added safety. Use properly rated EFI fuel hose only!!!

 

Last night I spent installing the 350 knock sensor. (It goes in the pluged hole in the block near the starter. Any remaining coolant in the block will drain out when you remove this plug). Use pipe sealant on the threads of the knock sensor.
I spent the rest of my time installing the throttle cable from the F-body (it takes some modification to the pedal end to make it work), and routing the wire harness, and spark plug wires. The factory '87 camaro wire harness fits very well in the Vette engine compartment. I'll post some pics of it when I have it routed for the final time, and have all the relays located where they look clean.
I do need advice, and pics of any ones location for the wire harness through hole into the cabin, and ECM location.

I'll keep the posts coming as I progress, and I'll be watching for any comments, or suggestions.

 

Dr Jay..
Great thread. You are answering alot of questions I have that are holding me back from doing this. How are you going to go about tuning? Is your engine pretty much stock anyway? It seems like adjusting the fuel/spark tables is an expensive proposition unless you figure out how to do it on your own. Also, are you using your stock fuel lines from tank/pump?

 

Most chip programmers will burn you a completely new chip for $125. Mine will be totally custom, as I have a roller 405 and none of the factory tables will work. I can suggest you to them if you like, just PM me.

 

Thanks Durango Boy.. I have been going round and round about deciding if I should rebuild my engine to L-98 specs or not just to avoid this issue. Since my car is apart I'm trying to get all the planning done now for stuff like fuel lines and pump setup.

Keep the updates coming Dr Jay!!

 

BigE your 75 is a little different, you have a different gas tank than DR.Jay's 78, our cars (75-77) have a much larger fuel sending unit that bolts on top of the tank and as you know the fuel inlet is in a different location (rear window), I'm sure you might be able to incorperate a fuel pump into it just the same. I'm going to get a 72-74 tank (smaller sending unit plate) and install a Tanks fuel pump in it, this requires drilling a 4 1/2" hole on the top of the tank, the smaller inlet gives me added room between the smaller sending unit mount plate and my tank hold down straps for this hole, it also gives me a built in baffle in case I run the gas down low. http://www.thedetailzone.com/

 

Everyone Thanks for the compliments
BigE, The engine is a 350 from a '79 1 ton truck. As far as I know it has been rebuilt, but I'm assuming it is stock rebuild. I am using a Mass Air Flow EFI system from an '87 Camaro. From what has been explained is that the MAF systems are more tollerant of engine modifications than the speed density systems used on later TPI.
The prom I ordered is a custom burnt to use with the larger 21lb injectors for the 350. I also had them remove VATS, and emissions for $65. There link: http://tpiparts.net/inc/sdetail/1495

This evening I was able to install the new piggyback prom into the ECM.


I also mounted the ECM behind the glove box.


After I had the ECM mounted I chose a location for the wire harness pass through hole (I made a tracing of the hole in the camaro firewall for the proper size & shape hole) Which I cut out with a die grinder & cut off wheel. The camaro harness has a retainer clip which slides in the groove in the bulk head connector, and locks the harness in place.
It almost looks factory




The cabin wires I labled with masking tape with there location, and purpose.


I also mounted the Vehicle Speed Sensor to the trans (it screws to the factory gear drive, and the cable screws to it) sorry no pic.
Pic of the engine bay after I neatened it up a bit.

I hope to have the O2 sensor installed tomorrow evening, and the ECM wires, and aux fuse box installed also. FedEx should also be delivering my new 21lb Accell injectors.
I will edit this post with todays pics tomorrow morning, the dial up here is dragging A$$
It's still uploading Oh great!!!! upload error (Just because I don't live within the city limits am I not worthy of high speed internet service?? )
I promise pics tomorrow.
DR. Jay the dial up challenged.

 

No Time Warner or Sudden Link up there in Leander?...Dang it boy, this is the 21st century.

 

What's 'dial up?'

 

Good thing Dr. Jay is a patient man....downloading all those pictures at the "special.xxx" websites...

 

It's a slow process, but worth the wait.

 

Good morning I used the T1 line at my office so pics are uploaded into post # 49. Sorry about the wait.

 

I ran my wire through the firewall where the tach cable was. It runs down the tunnel and the ECM is in the jack compartment. That makes battery and fuel pump connections easy. That won't work with a stock F-body harness though. If I had it to do again, I think I might get a C4 weatherproof ECM and mount it in the engine compartment.

 

If the whole donor car wasn't FREE I think if I would have had to purchase the ecm & harness I would have done the same thing. The thing I found interesting is that the fitment of holes, and parts for the harness into the Vette was almost in the same places as the Camaro.

 

I'd get a weatherproof ECM and mount it in the engine compartment also. I may yet....but it's a lot of wires to redo.

 

I know I'll have to upgrade the alternator from the current one. I had the used 105 amp alt. from the Camaro installed, but being used, and of an unknown age the Crown Vic Fan was too much for it . The '87 Camaro alternator fits the factory brackets. The pully has to be swaped, and you have to use the Camaro pigtail. I can post what 2 wires from the 3 wire Camaro pigtail are used if someone needs the info, but it will be this evening.

 

What are you thinking of using? A 144? They have several different amperage units...ranging up to close to 200.

 

Matt, I was using this one.

http://www.napaonline.com/masterpage...mfd+-+Standard

What year does the 144 type fit?