stock head cc's
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Racer
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From: Visalia CA
no problem, i agree but did you notice I mentioned i want it to remain ca smog legal. hedman has headers that you can weld the air tubes into yourself to make smog legal but that seems sketchy at best to me. I may still do headers but technically I still can't run a true dual exhaust, switching to dual cats is actually not smog legal as it's considered an alteration of the original smog equipment. dumb but true. i'm not seeking a fire breathing monster, but i do want to up the power some and see if i can do it without losing the smog equipment. I may still go non-smog and put everything back on at smog time but that seems like a big hassle, I havn't decided yet.
Drifting
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From: Springfield Illinois
no problem, i agree but did you notice I mentioned i want it to remain ca smog legal. hedman has headers that you can weld the air tubes into yourself to make smog legal but that seems sketchy at best to me. I may still do headers but technically I still can't run a true dual exhaust, switching to dual cats is actually not smog legal as it's considered an alteration of the original smog equipment. dumb but true. i'm not seeking a fire breathing monster, but i do want to up the power some and see if i can do it without losing the smog equipment. I may still go non-smog and put everything back on at smog time but that seems like a big hassle, I havn't decided yet.
Le Mans Master
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From: Little Rock AR
no problem, i agree but did you notice I mentioned i want it to remain ca smog legal. hedman has headers that you can weld the air tubes into yourself to make smog legal but that seems sketchy at best to me. I may still do headers but technically I still can't run a true dual exhaust, switching to dual cats is actually not smog legal as it's considered an alteration of the original smog equipment. dumb but true. i'm not seeking a fire breathing monster, but i do want to up the power some and see if i can do it without losing the smog equipment. I may still go non-smog and put everything back on at smog time but that seems like a big hassle, I havn't decided yet.
I would not bother with the headers. They will not be the best bang for the buck based on the combination you are working with.
-Mark.
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St. Jude Donor '03, '06, '17
Exhaust.. If you still have stock exhaust, it'll kill most of the performance that you'll gain.. 1 3/4 headers 2.5 - 3" pipes and non restrictive mufflers will really help..
Once I had a 383 in a '69 Vert that I used to own.. It had stock exhaust manifolds and mufflers and the car had no power.. I couldn't even smoke the tires with that setup without power-braking.. I went with open Hooker sidepipes and would be able to do 150 feet burnouts without using the brake or linelock. The power difference to stock exhaust was incredible. It felt like a completely different car.. probably about 40+ added RWHP..
Once I had a 383 in a '69 Vert that I used to own.. It had stock exhaust manifolds and mufflers and the car had no power.. I couldn't even smoke the tires with that setup without power-braking.. I went with open Hooker sidepipes and would be able to do 150 feet burnouts without using the brake or linelock. The power difference to stock exhaust was incredible. It felt like a completely different car.. probably about 40+ added RWHP..
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Racer
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From: Visalia CA
i've been thinking about the exhaust too, the last owner put a brand new stock exhaust on it. i may pull it and set it up to be bolt in, then do the same thing with a simple dual exhaust. would make it a lot easier to swap back and forth at smog time. if i don't do that i may go with 2.5" exhaust into a high flow 4" cat, 34" out back until it goes into seperate exhaust at 2.5" each. I've only done a little exhaust work myself and I hate doing it, plus I don't know if any shops around here will put together a non-smog system for me, which probably means i'm stuck doing it myself. (thats if i can find a 4" ca smog legal cat)
(thats if i can find a 4" ca smog legal cat)
Drifting
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From: New Baden Illinois
The 2-1-2 set up is still restrictive. If you have to have the cats on there, you may want to see about putting true duals with those small high flow cats on each one. that will get pricey though.
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It's still restrictive but better than stock.. 3 inches would be ideal with low restriction mufflers..
Le Mans Master
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From: Little Rock AR
I pulled my original exhaust off the car and stored it under my deck. It comes off in 2 pieces and is easy to remove. Unbolt 4 bolts at the cat and the rear half will fall off if you pull it forward. The front half will fall out if you remove the 6 nuts holding it to the manifolds. Save the middle hangar at the tranny. True duals can come off in one piece at smog test time so this is not too bad of a change out.. 
Adding just the high flow cat to the original pipes is the next best option IMHO. Smog legal and flows better but no need to do anything with the exhaust for smog testing.
-Mark.
Adding just the high flow cat to the original pipes is the next best option IMHO. Smog legal and flows better but no need to do anything with the exhaust for smog testing.
-Mark.
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