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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 12:13 AM
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so i posted a thread in the general section about getting those locking lug nuts on without the key. i got them off! yeah! all is well......not! I proceeded to change out the first set of pads and i hear this little sound of liquid under pressure squeezing out of a little hole. next thing i know it's dripping brake fluid.....I was hoping i could get away with just a pad change since it only has 50,000 miles on it but i guess i was wrong. So....what should i do now? On one hand I want to stay economical because I'm saving for a new driveway. On the other hand, if i'm going to replace one caliper i might as well do all four and get good ones. If i'm going to bleed the system i might as well flush and install those fancy fangled steel lines and if i'm doing that i might as well upgrade the rotors.......

I'm guessing vb&p is the best place to get this stuff but i could be wrong. steer me in the right direction guys, thanks.
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 12:31 AM
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Here's a vote for VB&P. Not the cheapest, but they have a forum discount and excellent customer service.
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 12:49 AM
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Fix what needs to be fixed now. Get the driveway done. Then save up for a complete brake redo later.
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 12:55 AM
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Sounds like frame off resto time.


Thats how I started mine...just planned on changing the rotors and pads.
Make a game plan and stick to it.
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 12:56 AM
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Yes save money on brakes, for the new fiberglass front end and frame rebuild you will soon need.
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 01:22 AM
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you guys are really encouraging

i probably should go as cheap as can be for now, i think i'll call the local parts house and see what rebuilt calipers cost. on the other hand.....anybody know anything about these
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 03:02 AM
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Agree with 68 NJConv 454. It's a slippery slope you're on. Watch your footing or you'll be waist deep in a frame-off by new years.

But, don't skimp. You'll end up spending more in the long run.
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 07:18 AM
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Autozone has S/S sleeved rebuilt calipers with a lifetime warranty for $69.99 each. If it fails in a year or so just replace it for a new one free of charge.

Check your rubber lines too, they go bad on the inside.
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 07:31 AM
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My vote would be new rubber or SS hoses all 4 corners, VBP O-Ring conversion kit $159, keep the rotors unless they are toasted, the stock ones are pretty good
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Durango_boy
Autozone has S/S sleeved rebuilt calipers with a lifetime warranty for $69.99 each. If it fails in a year or so just replace it for a new one free of charge.

Check your rubber lines too, they go bad on the inside.

It's best to do them at least in pairs, but I've done a single caliper in the past.
I have used autozone calipers from AutoZone for the vette in the past with good success. You'll get a remanufactured GM core.
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BTW - How did you end up getting the locking nuts off?
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 10:31 AM
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how hard is it to do? the o-ring conversion? does the caliper come apart fairly easily? i may just get the rotors turned and do that.
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 11:04 AM
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speaking of brakes didn't one of the companies associated with this forum just come out with a big brake upgrade on sale?? Sorry had to feed the fire.
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by joehalford01
how hard is it to do? the o-ring conversion? does the caliper come apart fairly easily? i may just get the rotors turned and do that.
yep, the calipers come apart very easily. just a couple of bolts.

getting your rotors turned will require that you drill out the rivets in order to remove the rotors (assuming that you still have the stock rotors)
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 11:17 AM
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I bought my rear calipers from Advance Auto and I think they were right around $65 each plus core. I'm getting the rubber lines, pads, and rotors from Rock Auto. They there's a Monroe pad set that like $25 with a $20 right now too. I had to replace one of the rear hardlines too as the fitting refused to be removed from the caliper. I ordered that from Eckler's last week and it should arrive tomorrow.

Also my car had the original rotors with 137k + miles on them, and it's a ton of fun getting them off after that much time. Drilling rivets, penetrating oil, torch, BFH and about 2 hours each.
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Originally Posted by 68 NJConv 454
Sounds like frame off resto time.


Thats how I started mine...just planned on changing the rotors and pads.
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Yep - my complete restification started with a loose exhaust hanger nut...
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 12:35 PM
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did you retain the caliper pistons with clips before removing them? The pistons have springs behind them that will push them out when you remove the caliper if not retained, you may have just pushed a piston out untill it leaked.

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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by greg454
did you retain the caliper pistons with clips before removing them? The pistons have springs behind them that will push them out when you remove the caliper if not retained, you may have just pushed a piston out untill it leaked.

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i was wondering about that as it wasn't leaking before i took the caliper off. i was wondering if it was something i did. i've never messed with a four piston caliper before and i noticed as i started running the pistons down on one side with my clamp the other side was coming up. are there special tools i need for these calipers? maybe i can get away with just rebuilding the front if i do the rest right. (i tend to learn as i go, at times it can get rather expensive......)
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 01:02 PM
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I would say you should probably just rebuild them all anyway. It's not difficult to do (nor expensive), and it's probably worth replacing the old seals so you don't have a problem down the road.

You shouldn't need any special tools, but the little retaining clips can be useful for getting the pads back in, as they are a bear to get in without the clips.
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 01:20 PM
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i didn't see any retaining clips, does anyone have a picture? maybe i'm missing them?
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by joehalford01
i didn't see any retaining clips, does anyone have a picture? maybe i'm missing them?

He means clips you buy to hold the pistons back inside the caliper while you slide the pads in and the whole assembly over the rotor. This keeps the pads from catching on the rotors as you install the caliper. Once in, just pull the clips out.

I just use the thick end of a wooden hammer handle to keep the pads separate while I slide the caliper on.
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