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Old Oct 21, 2007 | 02:49 PM
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Ok sorry I know I am asking a lot of questions in this post. Every time I convince myself that steeroids is my choice for steering I read some things that scare me away from considering it. So I have some questions.

Since the most recent bracket changes are people still having difficulty with the kit?

People say that it provides too much assistance. Surely it can be no worse than the stock setup? Additionally, can’t you get a valve to lessen the assistance?

I like the Idea of the jeep box but I do not want to collapse my steering column and the mounting seems shody. I have read you must alter some plastic cam in the steering column to get steeroids to work properly. It this true and how difficult is it?

Right now I plan to go with seeroids unless I hear enough bad things here.
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Old Oct 21, 2007 | 08:23 PM
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Have they solved the issues I've heard about concerning their mounting not being rigid enough and allowing flex?

If performance is a priority, why not just go manual? One less system to maintain, increased road feel, and certainly no over-assistance issues. Besides, it's good for upper body strength.
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Old Oct 21, 2007 | 08:25 PM
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I just installed a Steeroid rack and pinion kit in my 78. As I posted in my post. It wasn't that bad. Very straight forward. Just follow the directions. I only have 1 question and I'll call VBP tech support tomorrow. Because, nobody has replied to my post yet.
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Old Oct 21, 2007 | 08:29 PM
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I now have about 4000 miles on my steeroids kit. I had no problems with the install and no problems since. I have checked the setup twice and nothing has moved. I did not have to alter the signal light cam and you should not either so long as you have the pinion centered on the rack and the steering wheel centered when you connect your u-joint assembly. I am very happy with the setup and the steering response compared to the original.
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Old Oct 21, 2007 | 08:41 PM
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As some of you all know, I did my own install having it on the road in early 02, before Steeroids hit the market.....and it used the same rack as them, but totally differant otherwise...I can say the unit works fine, great road feel, great in parking/tight maneuver, 2.7 some turns lock to lock, great addition, the most important mod to the chassis/handling other than wheels/tires....easy....all the rest is moot, down the list after that is rear plastic spring, and shocks....

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I don't have either, but if I had it to do again I would have the "Jeep" box. You don't have to collapse the column much, about an inch. I drove one in a '72 and I was quite impressed.
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 01:12 AM
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Vette Brakes now sells a modified "Jeep box" that will directly bolt into a Vette chassis and it is still cheaper than Steeriods. Here is a link but no photo of product on VB website link: http://www.vbandp.com/SearchResult.aspx?CategoryID=339
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by TheSkunkWorks
Have they solved the issues I've heard about concerning their mounting not being rigid enough and allowing flex?

If performance is a priority, why not just go manual? One less system to maintain, increased road feel, and certainly no over-assistance issues. Besides, it's good for upper body strength.
Is it there a manual rack and pinion steering that bolts into a C3? If so i'd go that way...I dont like 'power' anything in a sportcar, apart the strength of my arms...
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Originally Posted by panic
Is it there a manual rack and pinion steering that bolts into a C3? If so i'd go that way...I dont like 'power' anything in a sportcar, apart the strength of my arms...
Check ou the Flaming River Rack. Looks like a really nice setup. Manual only!
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Hey panic do Ferrari’s have power steering?

Twin Turbo just installed the FR setup and the quality control seems a bit poor.

Do you still need to shorten the column with the VB kit? This may be the way to go.
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Twin Turbo just installed the FR setup and the quality control seems a bit poor.
Between TT's and a complaint or two from others I've read, I thought (or evidently assumed) the Steeroids unit had a weak mount issue. If I'm wrong, I'm sorry for any confusion my comments may have led to.
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 04:08 PM
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I had also heard that steeroids had some issues with brackets, I know they made some changes but I am unsure if they helped or not. TT installed the Flaming River setup and had to heavily (in my opinion) modify it to fit.
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Between TT's and a complaint or two from others I've read, I thought (or evidently assumed) the Steeroids unit had a weak mount issue.
It was me who had the problem with the steeriods brackets and posted recently. I went through 2 brakets and ended up having one of the brackets custom welded with a different much stronger design for lateral support movement. In my case it was much easier for me to have this done locally vs. sending back and forth brackets until I got one that would fit correctly do to their manufacturing tolerence errors.
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[QUOTE=68L71;1562411117]Hey panic do Ferrari’s have power steering?

Real ones didnt...
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Originally Posted by carpedm
It was me who had the problem with the steeriods brackets and posted recently. I went through 2 brakets and ended up having one of the brackets custom welded with a different much stronger design for lateral support movement. In my case it was much easier for me to have this done locally vs. sending back and forth brackets until I got one that would fit correctly do to their manufacturing tolerence errors.
I feel your pain.


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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 10:33 PM
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Holy $hit!!! First I hope you are okay and then there was not too much damage to the vette when it broke. I noticed problems at about 4,000 miles after install but thought it was totally related to something else as we had just swapped in VB&P front monospring. It got progressively worse quickly as the metal fatigued.
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Originally Posted by TheSkunkWorks
Between TT's and a complaint or two from others I've read, I thought (or evidently assumed) the Steeroids unit had a weak mount issue. If I'm wrong, I'm sorry for any confusion my comments may have led to.
I just put the Steeroids on my 73 vert. I agree w/ Binnie -- no issues Everything bolted on fine and the brackets seem to be sturdy enough. I dont road race my car but I do run it hard occaisionally and the Steeroids seems to hold up fine and is a HUGE inprovement over the old system.
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by carpedm
Holy $hit!!! First I hope you are okay and then there was not too much damage to the vette when it broke. I noticed problems at about 4,000 miles after install but thought it was totally related to something else as we had just swapped in VB&P front monospring. It got progressively worse quickly as the metal fatigued.
LOL I'm fine thanks for asking. it just self destructed it self to death I expect the new set to eventually do the same. I just need to get under there and mod all the brackets and change the joint angel for better aliment. There is lot's of areas to make improvements on the system. Including the over assist it feels like a video game steering
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 10:55 AM
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**** like this makes me wonder if the jeep box is a better option.
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 03:58 PM
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78 Vette neglects to mention that he drove the car many thousands of miles with the u-joints severly binding (which our instructions expressly state NOT to do). The binding u-joints caused the lower steering shaft to act as a lever that would pry against the bracket and the steering rack causing the damage to the brackets you see in his photos.
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