Alignment
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Racer
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From: Quincy MA
Alignment
Need an alignment, she tracks a wee bit to the left and I need to hold the steering wheel...
I work for a dealership, my service mgr. said he'll have it done here if I pick up the shims...
Should I get front or front and rear, from my limited "googling" I read that I should buy the following:
http://www.zip-products.com/Zip/prod...=BAN_CMarticle
63-82 UPPER CONTROL ARM ALIGNMENT SHIMS
and;
rear control stainless shim set with the bolts and two new cotter pins...
Thoughts?
Are shops like Firestone (chain) reputable to do alignments on our babies?
Thanks in advance,
Kevin
Quincy, MA
'74 Stingray or Sting Ray I forget
I work for a dealership, my service mgr. said he'll have it done here if I pick up the shims...
Should I get front or front and rear, from my limited "googling" I read that I should buy the following:
http://www.zip-products.com/Zip/prod...=BAN_CMarticle
63-82 UPPER CONTROL ARM ALIGNMENT SHIMS
and;
rear control stainless shim set with the bolts and two new cotter pins...
Thoughts?
Are shops like Firestone (chain) reputable to do alignments on our babies?
Thanks in advance,
Kevin
Quincy, MA
'74 Stingray or Sting Ray I forget
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Alignment
Hi Kmobrien,
The pulling to one side could be the power steeing control valve needs an adjustment.
Most shops will have some extra front control arm shims.
The trailing arm shims can take hours to get loose. Buy them and two new bolts and install them yourself, than any shop can give you a proper 4 wheel alignment.
In 74 its a STINGRAY.
Hope this helps, Pete.
The pulling to one side could be the power steeing control valve needs an adjustment.
Most shops will have some extra front control arm shims.
The trailing arm shims can take hours to get loose. Buy them and two new bolts and install them yourself, than any shop can give you a proper 4 wheel alignment.
In 74 its a STINGRAY.
Hope this helps, Pete.
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Don't you have an alignment shop near you? Forget tire stores. Any alignment shop worth it's salt should have shims. The front end on your car is standard GM issue (for the era), nothing special.
Conventional Short/Long Control Arms, spring & shock between the two, bottom ball joint loaded.
If that type of front end confuses your shop, you need to find a different alignment facility.
Conventional Short/Long Control Arms, spring & shock between the two, bottom ball joint loaded.
If that type of front end confuses your shop, you need to find a different alignment facility.
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Racer
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From: Quincy MA
Sounds good, my local race shop recommended a shop, they are a chain and highly recommended, appointment made, hope it goes smoothly...
Kevin
Kevin
Last edited by kmobrien76; Oct 22, 2007 at 03:37 PM.
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Your best bet is to take it to a Chevy dealership (if you work for one, all the better). They do them often and know how to do them correctly...especially the rear wheels. Don't take it to a "tire store" or general purpose alignment shop unless you know that the are skilled at working on Corvettes. Most of those kind of shops are in business to find lots of "serious" defects in your car so that they can save you from a serious accident for only $500! Take it to the "source".
Burning Brakes
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Wish I would have noticed this prior to my post.. I'm planning on rebuilding the front end myself, ie., replace tie rod ends, ball joints, etc., then take it to get aligned.. So assuming I do all this, it sounds like the dealer is the place to go?
That said, what can one expect to pay on average for the front end alignment?
That said, what can one expect to pay on average for the front end alignment?
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Alignment in Arlington
Hi, I had my 70 vert front end rebuild done in late 2005 and in early 2006 visited Mirak in Arlington 781-643-8000 ask for Doug in the body shop. They take their work seriously on corvettes. I was very pleased with the alignment. The car tracks straight as an arrow. Let me know if you have further questions.
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1125 MASSACHUSETTS AVE
ARLINGTON, MA 02176
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Body Shop Hours:
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Mirak
1125 MASSACHUSETTS AVE
ARLINGTON, MA 02176
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From: Working on the car NY
IMO, the dealer is the last place to go. The mechanics are paid on the quantity of work they do and not the quality of work. I'd "ask" around your area. The rear shims for tow on a Corvette need to be done by someone who knows what they are doing. A lot of places don't even do rear tow.
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IMO, the dealer is the last place to go. The mechanics are paid on the quantity of work they do and not the quality of work. I'd "ask" around your area. The rear shims for tow on a Corvette need to be done by someone who knows what they are doing. A lot of places don't even do rear tow.
Find a good experienced independent alignment shop for working on your shark. Ask around; other owners, Corvette specialty shops, etc., and then talk to the person who will do the work. Make sure he/she had aligned C2/C3 Corvettes and knows them well. Front end cost will probably be the prevailing rate for most cars, but the rear might be twice that amount because of the work involved. With a good alignment your shark should drive down the road straight and true, and as an added bonus, it won't pull to either side under braking.
Burning Brakes
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Well, the dealer I talked to today I've known and worked with for years.. After talking about the alignment needs of mine, they said they have worked on more 70's Vettes than new ones. They said they have a good alignment guy and I will not be disappointed. I was quoted $70 + shims if necessary..
Drifting
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Well, the dealer I talked to today I've known and worked with for years.. After talking about the alignment needs of mine, they said they have worked on more 70's Vettes than new ones. They said they have a good alignment guy and I will not be disappointed. I was quoted $70 + shims if necessary..
Burning Brakes
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Sorry, should have said $79.95 for 4 wheel... They have a sale going on ATM..
BTW, anyone have an opinion on the "SU01B_69-82" front end deluxe rebuild kit for the 1979 Vette?
I am thinking of getting it from these guys: http://www.volvette.com/Merchant2/me...de=SU01B_69-82
I plan to redo the front end before doing the alignment so there are not hidden surprises.
BTW, anyone have an opinion on the "SU01B_69-82" front end deluxe rebuild kit for the 1979 Vette?
I am thinking of getting it from these guys: http://www.volvette.com/Merchant2/me...de=SU01B_69-82
I plan to redo the front end before doing the alignment so there are not hidden surprises.
Drifting
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Sorry, should have said $79.95 for 4 wheel... They have a sale going on ATM..
BTW, anyone have an opinion on the "SU01B_69-82" front end deluxe rebuild kit for the 1979 Vette?
I am thinking of getting it from these guys: http://www.volvette.com/Merchant2/me...de=SU01B_69-82
I plan to redo the front end before doing the alignment so there are not hidden surprises.
BTW, anyone have an opinion on the "SU01B_69-82" front end deluxe rebuild kit for the 1979 Vette?
I am thinking of getting it from these guys: http://www.volvette.com/Merchant2/me...de=SU01B_69-82
I plan to redo the front end before doing the alignment so there are not hidden surprises.
$80 for 4 wheels is a bargain for guys with older vette experience. But if you have rotted bushings in either the front or rear, they probably won't touch it.
Since you are doing the front, that won't be an issue. BTW, check with volvette on what brand parts are in the kits...ie: moog ball joints, etc.
Your problem with the alignment will come with the rear..worn out bushings and rusted trailing arm pivot bolts.
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Sorry, should have said $79.95 for 4 wheel... They have a sale going on ATM..
BTW, anyone have an opinion on the "SU01B_69-82" front end deluxe rebuild kit for the 1979 Vette?
I am thinking of getting it from these guys: http://www.volvette.com/Merchant2/me...de=SU01B_69-82
I plan to redo the front end before doing the alignment so there are not hidden surprises.
BTW, anyone have an opinion on the "SU01B_69-82" front end deluxe rebuild kit for the 1979 Vette?
I am thinking of getting it from these guys: http://www.volvette.com/Merchant2/me...de=SU01B_69-82
I plan to redo the front end before doing the alignment so there are not hidden surprises.
Burning Brakes
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$80 for 4 wheels is a bargain for guys with older vette experience. But if you have rotted bushings in either the front or rear, they probably won't touch it.
Since you are doing the front, that won't be an issue. BTW, check with volvette on what brand parts are in the kits...ie: moog ball joints, etc.
Your problem with the alignment will come with the rear..worn out bushings and rusted trailing arm pivot bolts.
Since you are doing the front, that won't be an issue. BTW, check with volvette on what brand parts are in the kits...ie: moog ball joints, etc.
Your problem with the alignment will come with the rear..worn out bushings and rusted trailing arm pivot bolts.
That is good to know.. I was looking at VBP, but the Volunteer has free shipping and is about $20 cheaper on the kit.
Drifting
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BTW, anyone have an opinion on the "SU01B_69-82" front end deluxe rebuild kit for the 1979 Vette?
I am thinking of getting it from these guys: http://www.volvette.com/Merchant2/me...de=SU01B_69-82
I am thinking of getting it from these guys: http://www.volvette.com/Merchant2/me...de=SU01B_69-82
Edit: Though I went with the poly bushing kit instead of rubber.
Last edited by Trae1976; Oct 24, 2007 at 08:06 AM.
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My .02 - get poly bushings. You'll get faster steering response and never have to worry about replacing them again. Rubber will dry rot. #2 - get poly boot covers for your ball joints and tie rod ends. #3-don't buy kits that have "no-name" parts from China
. I wouldn't use anything other than Moog. You shouldn't concern yourself with "saving a few bucks" unless you know you are getting quality parts. Do it right the first time and you're set for many years. Been there, done that.
. I wouldn't use anything other than Moog. You shouldn't concern yourself with "saving a few bucks" unless you know you are getting quality parts. Do it right the first time and you're set for many years. Been there, done that.
