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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 08:53 PM
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I am getting a loud "clunk" from the front end every time I shift it into revearse and then back into drive. It sounds like some loose motion. Any ideas where I should look?

the car seems to drive fine, just has this pop / clunking sound right when you put it into gear.
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 10:18 PM
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If you are absolutely certain the noise is coming from the front, check the motor mounts. Could be any number of things, but that's where I'd start
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Originally Posted by 682XLR8
If you are absolutely certain the noise is coming from the front, check the motor mounts. Could be any number of things, but that's where I'd start
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 10:22 PM
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Thanks for the response 682XLR8, but it's in the susopension somewhere. You can feel it in the steering wheel. Feels like loose motion at the front wheel.
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 10:27 PM
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Thanks for the response 682XLR8, but it's in the susopension somewhere. You can feel it in the steering wheel. Feels like loose motion at the front wheel.
Could still be motor mounts, as the motor is attached to the frame and so's the suspension.

Also check your front end bushings.
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I had a lower control arm shaft come loose once, where its bolted to the frame. I could hear it knock during a stop/take off(not during shifting though), as well as front end shake while driving. Found it when I crawled under the front and just checked if everything was tight, as the front end had a complete rebuild and recent alignment. That would be another thing to check
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Something similar happened to mine this summer. What I found happened was the shims fell out at the upper control arms and was allowing the upper a-arm to move in and out.

Another thing that you might want to look at is the differential snubber. This usually shows up as a bump when the car goes from reverse to drive.
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Eddie 70
Something similar happened to mine this summer. What I found happened was the shims fell out at the upper control arms and was allowing the upper a-arm to move in and out.
Same thing here.
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Check your idler arm to frame mounting bolts. Also check your steering box mounting bolts.
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by murraybs
Could still be motor mounts
And its easy to check, especially since our hoods hinge in the front. Lift the hood, start her up, foot on the brake, and put it in reverse and then drive a few times. If you get a lot of movement you've got some motor mount issues. Also a good place to check is your fan shroud. If the fan is chewing up the fan shroud this would also be indicative of bad motor mount(s).

When I diagnosed mine, I powerbraked it a little in reverse and got all kinds of movement... engine lifted up from the right to left. Replaced the broken right motor mount and all was well.
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My vote is either control arm shimms, or spindle arm to spindle bolts. Had the same thing happen on my 77.
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Thanks guys,

It looks like it IS the control arm shims.

Can I replace these or does this need to be done at a front end shop?
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You can buy shims at Autozone and put them back in but you will still need an alignment to get it all correct.
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If you have your foot on the brake and the front end clunks when you go from "drive" to "reverse," you have worn out a-arm bushings. What's happening is that with the brakes locked and the tranny pulling the car forwards and backwards, the a-arm shafts are flopping from one side to the other inside the worn out (or missing) bushings. You have metal-to-metal contact between the a-arm shaft and the a-arm holes. It's most likely that it's the upper arms that are shot, but you should rebuild both uppers and lowers. Drop me an e-mail for my front end rebuild paper if you need rebuild instructions:
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Originally Posted by lars
If you have your foot on the brake and the front end clunks when you go from "drive" to "reverse," you have worn out a-arm bushings. What's happening is that with the brakes locked and the tranny pulling the car forwards and backwards, the a-arm shafts are flopping from one side to the other inside the worn out (or missing) bushings. You have metal-to-metal contact between the a-arm shaft and the a-arm holes. It's most likely that it's the upper arms that are shot, but you should rebuild both uppers and lowers. Drop me an e-mail for my front end rebuild paper if you need rebuild instructions:
V8FastCars@msn.com
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i have had 2 pontiacs with
upper control arm bushing failure, major clunk each car when going from park to revers to drive and vice versa
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 01:38 PM
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Here is a link to an article I wrote for the at home alignment procedure - if you have the shims.

http://www.duntovmotors.com/AlignmentSchool.htm
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