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Old Apr 9, 2008 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 63mako
If you are running a solid roller, forged crank. $1400 Billet rods, AFR heads, single plane and planning on spending a lot of time between 4000 and 7200 RPM why even consider hyper pistons, especially KB's?
Dont circle track motors see the same RPMs with cast and or hyper pistons?

Isnt the LS7 a 7000rpm motor with hyper pistons?
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Originally Posted by Solid LT1
Friends DON'T let friends use Indian produced Speed Pro pistons. All the Sealed Power piston line is now produced in India, do you really want to go there? SRP, KB forged, Probe, Mahle, and many others are USA made an FAR BETTER designs than Speed Pro products. For a cam you may want to talk with Bullet cams about some of the Ultra Dyne lobe patterns they now own, they are quite good performers and great on parts wear. I have run a U-D 276/284 in my 355 cu/in motor with very good results (0.050 is 243/251 0.582 lift on 110 lobe seperation.) The U-D is a VERY STRONG runner from 2200 to 7400 RPM with some small port 230CFM heads on the motor.
I have been eyeing the SRS series of Probe pistons. Seems reasonably priced.

I just wish I had more low expansion aluminum options.

Didnt the XE line of cams get designed by the same guy? I am waiting to see what Cammotion tells me.
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Originally Posted by Guru_4_hire
Dont circle track motors see the same RPMs with cast and or hyper pistons?

Isnt the LS7 a 7000rpm motor with hyper pistons?
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Old Apr 9, 2008 | 10:54 PM
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Circle track motors are torn down, checked and freshened up on a regular basis. An LS7 has hyper pistons, fuel injection and computerized timing, A/F is perfect at all rpm and anti knock sensors and automatic retard is part of the package. Different animal than a caburated 350 with a distributor. LS7 also has a 7000 RPM redline with a hydraulic roller cam! Just seems like the motor you are talking about has all top quality parts with cheap pistons. Build the bottom end stronger than you think you need. Weakest part always fails and if you plan on running 4000 to 7200 RPM on a regular basis your failure will be those hyper pistons. Your original post said easy on parts. 7200 RPM isn't easy on parts no matter what they are.

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Fair enough. I can buy that.

The LS series engine also has a much bigger base circle, much higher rocker ratios, and I believe titanium valves in the LS7.
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Guru_4_hire
Fair enough. I can buy that.

The LS series engine also has a much bigger base circle, much higher rocker ratios, and I believe titanium valves in the LS7.


If you have a super duper crank, billit rods, you can't use cast pistons
it just looks bad don't tell anyone there in there with forged pistons there is no worry.

Titanium valves are only $1600.00 a set if you use them you can get your
hydraulic roller to rev 7000 RPM long term. Lets see $800.00 for the hydrauilc
roller set up + $1600.00 for the valves $2400.00 or you can spend $200.00
for a solid tappit cam spin it 8000 rpm if you like no fancy valves needed, simple device just a solid chunk of metal for a lifter, chevy, ford, chrysler made them run for lots a miles trouble free. Hell for $70,000.00 or more chevy will throw in a really nice car and titanium valves all in the same deal.

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At this point I will probably buy a set of probe SRS pistons.
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At this point I will probably buy a set of probe SRS pistons.
I don't know anything about them are they a forged pistons ?
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Yep. 2618 forged piston.

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Originally Posted by Guru_4_hire
Seems like I remember probe made parts for fords back before anyone
was making much in the way of specialized parts for ford engines.
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that is also what i heard as well.
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Good deal on some 396 pistons on the fleabay.

that might change the calculus a little bit.
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It appears that I am building a 396.

Got some 1.063" compression height 396 pistons. Now I need a crank, heads, and a big ol camshaft.

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