C3 Tech/Performance V8 Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Basic Tech and Maintenance for the C3 Corvette
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

wiped cam lobe

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 6, 2008 | 02:14 PM
  #1  
81cali's Avatar
81cali
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 841
Likes: 0
From: High Desert California
Default wiped cam lobe

I read posts about wiped out cam lobes, how can you tell this? What are the symptoms, what and how does it feel for someone to conclude that this has happened? Just curious .
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2008 | 03:00 PM
  #2  
7T1vette's Avatar
7T1vette
Team Owner
15 Year Member
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Top Answer: 5
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 37,637
Likes: 3,118
From: Crossville TN
Default

Loss of engine power...

Check by measuring rocker arm movement....all exhaust valves should move about the same amount; intake valves should be alike, but may be different than exhaust 'lift'.
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2008 | 03:36 PM
  #3  
TimAT's Avatar
TimAT
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 7,123
Likes: 433
From: Gladstone MO
C3 of Year Finalist (appearance mods) 2019
Default

Loss of power is one. You will also get a clicking noise from a rocker after the lobe gets bad enough the hydraulic lifter can't adjust itself anymore. Easy way to tell, pull the rocker cover on the side you hear the noise coming from, start the engine, and look. One will be barely moving and the rest will be.

Other symptoms may be backfiring into the intake or exhaust and engine miss.
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2008 | 04:16 PM
  #4  
81cali's Avatar
81cali
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 841
Likes: 0
From: High Desert California
Default

Thanks, it's just good to know. That is, IF it ever happens to me (hope not). Thank you for the additional knowledge.
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2008 | 05:03 PM
  #5  
81 stroker's Avatar
81 stroker
Advanced
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 78
Likes: 0
Default Been there 81 Cali

I have an 81 4-speed with a 383 I purchased from Cali on Ebay. The engine had about 2000 miles on it and as soon as I put synthetic in the cam wiped. I heard a slight ticking and a loud ticking and spitting through the carb and going down the highway she gave lose. Not cheap, out came the engine and out came the check book. You will definetly know when this is happening
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2008 | 05:11 PM
  #6  
81cali's Avatar
81cali
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 841
Likes: 0
From: High Desert California
Default

i'll definitely watch out for that and maybe stay away from synthetic. i use rotella btw.
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2008 | 08:04 PM
  #7  
jerrylee's Avatar
jerrylee
Pro
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 599
Likes: 0
From: New York
Default

I had my enginre rebuilt n broke her in with Castrol GTX then when she hit the 2,000 mark I switched to Redline 10-30...Now almost 2,000 miles later she is still running like new....I know there oil cost more but for the few extra bucks a year it's worth the protection.....There Z level is 1330 ppm n there Phos level is @ 1200 ppm.....Just as high if not higher then any other oil......To me it's worth the price.....I believe Amsoil n Royal Purple also offer good protection although I'm not sure of there #'s.....Mobil also offers a few choices which are high in Z n Phos............Jerrylee///
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2008 | 08:11 PM
  #8  
straub18045's Avatar
straub18045
Racer
15 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 476
Likes: 0
From: Easton PA
Default

i always could tell by a abnormal noise
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

 Brett Foote
story-2

10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Apr 6, 2008 | 10:17 PM
  #9  
C66 Racing's Avatar
C66 Racing
Premium Supporting Vendor
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 5,364
Likes: 38
From: King George VA
Default

Originally Posted by jerrylee
... I believe Amsoil n Royal Purple also offer good protection although I'm not sure of there #'s.....Mobil also offers a few choices which are high in Z n Phos............Jerrylee///
AMSOIL recommends these oils for use in flat tappet engines. Each has phosphorus on the order of 1265 ppm and zinc on the order of 1378 ppm:
AMSOIL Series 2000 20w50
AMSOIL SAE Synthetic Premium Performance 20w50
AMSOIL SAE Synthetic Premium Performance 10w40
AMSOIL Series 3000 Synthetic 5w30 Heavy Duty Diesel Oil

And, to address the second part of your comment, I came across this handy table of Mobil 1 phosphorus levels the other day:
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/...duct_Guide.pdf
__________________


C66 Racing #66 NASA ST2, SCCA T2
AMSOIL Dealer (Forum Vendor)
AMSOIL Preferred Customer Program (Members buy at Wholesale - a savings of about 25%)





Reply
Old Apr 7, 2008 | 04:55 AM
  #10  
RunningMan373's Avatar
RunningMan373
Melting Slicks
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 3,246
Likes: 4
From: Bay Area CA
Default

Originally Posted by 81 stroker
I have an 81 4-speed with a 383 I purchased from Cali on Ebay. The engine had about 2000 miles on it and as soon as I put synthetic in the cam wiped. I heard a slight ticking and a loud ticking and spitting through the carb and going down the highway she gave lose. Not cheap, out came the engine and out came the check book. You will definetly know when this is happening
What type of synth did the job?
Reply
Old Apr 7, 2008 | 09:11 AM
  #11  
jdp6000's Avatar
jdp6000
Melting Slicks
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,740
Likes: 3
From: Aurora Ontario
Default

Originally Posted by RunningMan373
What type of synth did the job?
This happens quit a bit. i don't think there is any zinc in synthetic.

Jim
Reply
Old Apr 7, 2008 | 03:07 PM
  #12  
81cali's Avatar
81cali
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 841
Likes: 0
From: High Desert California
Default

what is the best weight royal purple do you suggest?
Reply
Old Apr 7, 2008 | 05:44 PM
  #13  
81 stroker's Avatar
81 stroker
Advanced
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 78
Likes: 0
Default

Shell full synthetic
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2008 | 09:26 AM
  #14  
jb78L-82's Avatar
jb78L-82
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 7,451
Likes: 974
From: RI, Now Franklin/Nashville TN
Default

Originally Posted by straub18045
i always could tell by a abnormal noise
Mobil 1 15W-50 has z of 1200ppm versus 800ppm for all the other Mobil 1 weights.
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2008 | 11:59 AM
  #15  
C66 Racing's Avatar
C66 Racing
Premium Supporting Vendor
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 5,364
Likes: 38
From: King George VA
Default

Originally Posted by jdp6000
This happens quit a bit. i don't think there is any zinc in synthetic.

Jim
Jim,
See the link to the Mobil 1 website above showing the various phosphorus levels in their oils. Phosporus is a primary anti-wear additive and is added to oil as part of Zinc dialkyl dithio phosphate , or ZDDP. The zinc ppm usually closely matches the phosphorus levels.

And, as mentioned above, several AMSOIL products come with very high levels of ZDDP and all AMSOIL lubricants are synthetic.
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To wiped cam lobe





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:36 AM.

story-0
10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Corvettes that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 10:34:17


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

A lot of money has changed hands at the online auction house over the years.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-03 10:21:50


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: 10 great gifts Corvette enthusiasts actually want for Father's Day!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:40


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

Slideshow: These are the quirks, annoyances, and oddly lovable problems that every Corvette owner eventually learns to live with.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 09:31:39


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

Slideshow: 10 reasons why the C6 Z06 is still a performance benchmark after 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 17:20:09


VIEW MORE
story-5
How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

Slideshow: How much horsepower every Corvette engine lost in 1972.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:54:53


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-8
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-9
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE