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Old May 12, 2008 | 12:56 PM
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Doning some interior work and decided to use the spray dye on the trim and dash.

After cleaning and preping the parts, i started to dye them again. After following the process, part of the dash not showing correctly...the color is fine but, the texture is a bit rough and not as glossy as the remainder of the part.

Does anyone know how to fix this or strip the dash pad down to start over?

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Old May 12, 2008 | 04:26 PM
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I didn't experience this problem.
Did you only dye part of the piece, or the whole thing and then noticed that one area had a diffrent finish?
You are using dye primer (clear spray prep)?
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Old May 12, 2008 | 05:51 PM
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Only part of the dash has the problem...about 90% came out great.
I cleaned with soap and water.
Then spray prep to remove any other silicone or grease that the soap didnt remove.
Rinsed with water.
After that, i put on the spray dye...didnt use any dye primer, thought that was only needed on plastic parts. I put some on order today.

Thinking outloud, maybe some of the contaminants or solvents were trapped when i applied the dye.
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Old May 12, 2008 | 08:29 PM
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Was the material you sprayed very thin and watery...or kinda thick like paint? Vinyl dye is very thin/watery and does not fill in any grain in vinyl surfaces. Some auto parts places sell "spray dye" and it is nothing but cheap paint. I hope that's not your problem. I buy SEM vinyl dye from auto painter supply stores and have never had a problem.
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Old May 12, 2008 | 08:40 PM
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dye from CC which is just re-labeled SEM.
Other parts are just fine so its got to be a problem with the dash pad.

now i'm just trying to figure out how to recover from this...not sure how to strip it down and start over
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Old May 12, 2008 | 08:43 PM
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SEM is the way to go. Check with any Auto Paint distributer.

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Old May 13, 2008 | 05:13 PM
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Did the texture of the area giving you problems seem any different from the rest before you sprayed? Some times if the area is a little rough to begin with, paint or dye makes it worse, not better. Just a thought.
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Old May 13, 2008 | 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by NCLT1Vette
dye from CC which is just re-labeled SEM.
Other parts are just fine so its got to be a problem with the dash pad.

now i'm just trying to figure out how to recover from this...not sure how to strip it down and start over
Lacquer thinner on a rag should make quick work of removing the dye.
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Originally Posted by NCLT1Vette
Only part of the dash has the problem...about 90% came out great.
I cleaned with soap and water.
Then spray prep to remove any other silicone or grease that the soap didnt remove.
Rinsed with water.
After that, i put on the spray dye...didnt use any dye primer, thought that was only needed on plastic parts. I put some on order today.

Thinking outloud, maybe some of the contaminants or solvents were trapped when i applied the dye.
Primer is needed on the dash 'cause it IS plastic!!!
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Old May 14, 2008 | 12:10 AM
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They just covered this topic on Gearz on the Speed channel. You did everything right except use adhesion promoter.

I don't know if that caused the rough area or not though.

cc
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Old May 14, 2008 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by sly vette
Primer is needed on the dash 'cause it IS plastic!!!
I just started dying some of my trim. I tried with dye first and if it didn't come out as well as I expected, I primed it then redyed and it came out great. Even had a little run that I figured I'd go back and fix after it dried. Came back a cpl of days later and it was fine.
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Old May 20, 2008 | 02:14 PM
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Thanks for everyones help!

The parts came out great the second go around.
Here is what i did...
1. Wiped down with laquer thinner
2. Scrubbed with soap and water
3. Dried overnight
4. Applied SEM Plastic/Vynl Prep
5. Appled SEM Adhesion Promoter
6. Applied SEM Sand Free Primer
7. Applied Dye
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My interior is complete but looks horrid due to years of neglect (the car sat outside for years before i got it home in a garage where it belongs). Could you post pics of the finished pieces for me? I'm thinking I may try this too if it looks good and is less expensive than replacement pieces.
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Originally Posted by Kellys~hotrods
My interior is complete but looks horrid due to years of neglect (the car sat outside for years before i got it home in a garage where it belongs). Could you post pics of the finished pieces for me? I'm thinking I may try this too if it looks good and is less expensive than replacement pieces.
Sure, i'll post a link to our club site when i get the interior back together.

I had to replace the pillar post and top pieces and the new ones dont look as nice as the refinished ones...i'll need to clean and dye them to match.

I hope to have the interior in this weekend...still working on a few parts before assembly.
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