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Old May 13, 2008 | 03:32 PM
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How bad does this look? am i in alot of trouble? the whole frame is rock solid.. beside a lil surface rust here and there...





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Old May 13, 2008 | 03:39 PM
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Rich, that mount sure doesn't look very healthy and at this point in time it probably is not doing the job it was intended to do. I think now is the time to fix it. Some of these supports are available after market...not sure if this one is or not.
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Old May 13, 2008 | 03:47 PM
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Those mounts are available.....I had to replace them both in my 68
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Check with Paragon. I believe they have those mounts. The frame does look ok, but those mounts will continue to deteriorate if you don't replace them.
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Old May 13, 2008 | 03:53 PM
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The Body reinforcement is shot, you can pick them up @ Paragon Reproductions. That's the metal cap over the fiberglass. The frame mount looks good, but if all the body mounts are like that, they all need to be replaced. I am in the middle of a Body off, I had to replace all the Body Reinforcements, and all the frame mounts. It was quite the mess.
You'll need to raise the body several inches in order to drill the pop rivets from the reinforcement but ir shouldn's be that bad. Also there is a caption nut in the well in the rear of the car, thatreceives the body mount bolt. You need to pay attention that that one doesn't tear it's rivets and start to spin around. Good Luck, your frame looks solid enough.

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Old May 13, 2008 | 04:16 PM
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How many body mounting points are there?

I mean I have the engine, trans and rear and front suspension out, interior is gutted...

maybe i should just take the body off the frame...i'm so deep in now...and over my head...gezzz

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Old May 13, 2008 | 04:54 PM
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Assuming this is a couple, you have 4 on each side. That is the #4 mount and chances are the portion attached to the frame is rotted somewhat as well, which can be repaired with some welding. The upper portion which is riveted to the body is available from Paragon. Since you have that much of the car apart, I would at least lift up the body to replace the rubber mounts and repair that #4 mount.

Here is what the frame portion could look like.

http://blog.scottsvettetalk.com/2007...nt-repair.aspx

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Old May 13, 2008 | 06:34 PM
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Those reinforcements rust out on most cars, all of the major restoration vendors carry them. It's worth pointing out that your rubber body mounts are trashed, too.

I posted a write-up on my body mount replacement a while back, it should be easily found in the Advanced Search feature using my name.
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Originally Posted by Scott Marzahl
Assuming this is a couple, you have 4 on each side. That is the #4 mount and chances are the portion attached to the frame is rotted somewhat as well, which can be repaired with some welding. The upper portion which is riveted to the body is available from Paragon. Since you have that much of the car apart, I would at least lift up the body to replace the rubber mounts and repair that #4 mount.

Here is what the frame portion could look like.

http://blog.scottsvettetalk.com/2007...nt-repair.aspx
Nice pictures! That is the way I repair #4 body mountson the frame. It costs nothing but time and you know the location on the frame is still the same.
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Those reinforcements riveted onto the body are toast. Zips and others sell replacements. The good news is the rivets are aluminum and are easy to grind off. You might find some bad news on the frame mounts when you take off the rubber bushings. You can cut the top off the mount and weld a plate on to repair the mount rather than remove and replace the entire mount. That way you won't have the placement/alignment issues that come with a total replacement.



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Originally Posted by Bullcrappy1
How many body mounting points are there?

I mean I have the engine, trans and rear and front suspension out, interior is gutted...

maybe i should just take the body off the frame...i'm so deep in now...and over my head...gezzz

r
If you have all that stuff off anyway it's not that much more work to remove the body. It will take an extra year and who knows how much $ to finish the chassis but you can have an essentially new chassis to drop the body back onto. Believe me, I know how much work is involved and most of it is unrewarding (disassembling, degreasing, cleaning, painting) but when it starts going back together it starts getting fun again.



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Originally Posted by Bullcrappy1
How many body mounting points are there?

I mean I have the engine, trans and rear and front suspension out, interior is gutted...

maybe i should just take the body off the frame...i'm so deep in now...and over my head...gezzz

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Bite the bullet now and you will be glad you did in the future. New brake and fuel lines while you're at it.
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Old May 13, 2008 | 10:03 PM
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Default ya i guess i gotta now..

looks good Rick, real good.

and yep new fuel lines now as well...lol

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Originally Posted by Bullcrappy1
How many body mounting points are there?

I mean I have the engine, trans and rear and front suspension out, interior is gutted...

maybe i should just take the body off the frame...i'm so deep in now...and over my head...gezzz

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Bite the bullet now and you will be glad you did in the future. New brake and fuel lines while you're at it.
Remove body...you'll be glad you did in the end!!
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Old May 14, 2008 | 08:13 AM
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Don't put it off, it will cost you more in th long run. Once you get the body off you may find other areas that are in need of repair. All my body mounts were rusted through.
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Those look just like mine did before I replaced them. Be prepared in case your angle bracket hole is rusted out as well. Mine was so I had to cut and weld some new replacement metal on it. PITA, but doable for an average joe.
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Thanks guys, this has turned into such a mess/ordeal. NEVER ever thought i would have the body off the frame.

just thought i was redoing the suspension and drive train... now i have it in a million part and hope i can get it all back together someday...lol

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Take lots of pictures and notes. Put all bolts/fasteners in labeled baggies....otherwise???? Good luck on a difficult project.
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Old May 14, 2008 | 02:18 PM
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Ohh i must have 50 zip lock baggies, with post notes inside them...lol

and a couple hundred pictures... what was i thinking..

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Take lots of pictures and notes. Put all bolts/fasteners in labeled baggies....otherwise???? Good luck on a difficult project.
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