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Old Jul 27, 2008 | 05:20 PM
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I just installed a new headlight switch on my 79 L-48. I am so happy I have gauge lights now, however when I pull the swich to turn my light on they won't come up. I put my vacuum hoses back the same way they came off. Here's where it get interesting, I can pull my valve at the bottom of the steering colum and they will go up. When I push my headlight switch rod in to close they won't, but I can push the valve and they will go down?
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Old Jul 27, 2008 | 05:43 PM
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Did you put the hoses on the correct port? Here's a diagram for 73 to 79 Vettes http://s243.photobucket.com/albums/ff91/petes74ttop/ PG.
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Old Jul 27, 2008 | 07:26 PM
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If you didn't mark how they came off, you probably reversed them. Otherwise, your work in there pulled off a hose somewhere else.
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Old Jul 27, 2008 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by koni9
When I push my headlight switch rod in to close they won't, but I can push the valve and they will go down?
This last sentence is normal the valve under the dash will overide the headlight switch.
Back to your other problem--try this just for fun--try pulling the headlight switch out very very slowly and see if the lights will come up if they do you have the hoses switched.
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Old Jul 27, 2008 | 09:22 PM
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You didn't mention, but I'm assuiming the lights went up before you replaced the switch, right?
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Old Jul 27, 2008 | 09:44 PM
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Keep in mind when trouble shooting that the vacuum pulls the headlights down. When you release the vacuum the springs pull the lights up.
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Old Jul 27, 2008 | 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by thegazman
Keep in mind when trouble shooting that the vacuum pulls the headlights down. When you release the vacuum the springs pull the lights up.
Vacuum pulls it both ways.
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My guess is that you have the vacuum hoses hooked up correctly but that your new switch is not working properly.
When you pull the headlight switch out the vacuum is blocked, that makes the head lights go up.
If you leave the headlight switch pushed in (the off position), the vacuum goes thru the headlight switch and the vacuum then goes thru the pull down switch. If you pull down the override switch the vacuum is blocked at that point, and that makes the headlights open. PG.
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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 07:05 AM
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Yeah all of my vacuum worked perfect before I switched it out. The only reason why I changed it was I had no gauge lights. NOW, I have gauge lights with a funky vacuum problem..... Things that make you go hummmmmm.........
I will troubleshoot tonight and get back with y'all....
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It is very possible that you got a bad switch. About 2 years ago there was a batch of bad switches on the market. The electrical part worked fine, but the vacuum didn't. I remember seeing more trouble with 68-77 switches, but the 78-82's were effected also. Often you could actually hear the vacuum leaking with the bad switches.

I haven't seen any bad switches in a while, but it doesn't mean that it doesn't happen. If you got it from a Vette vendor, you may have even gotten old, bad, inventory, from a couple years ago.
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Originally Posted by gbvette62
It is very possible that you got a bad switch. About 2 years ago there was a batch of bad switches on the market. The electrical part worked fine, but the vacuum didn't. I remember seeing more trouble with 68-77 switches, but the 78-82's were effected also. Often you could actually hear the vacuum leaking with the bad switches.

I haven't seen any bad switches in a while, but it doesn't mean that it doesn't happen. If you got it from a Vette vendor, you may have even gotten old, bad, inventory, from a couple years ago.
Koni9 you didnt get a switch that looks like the one on the left in the pic did you?
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Originally Posted by DWncchs
Koni9 you didnt get a switch that looks like the one on the left in the pic did you?
Wow...looks like the metal part with the numbers 2 & 3 is upside down...couldn't you just switch top and bottom hoses or better yet undue the 6 metal tabs and put the part in the opposite direction and push the tabs back down?

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Old Jul 28, 2008 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Yello95
Wow...looks like the metal part with the numbers 2 & 3 is upside down...couldn't you just switch top and bottom hoses or better yet undue the 6 metal tabs and put the part in the opposite direction and push the tabs back down?
Switching the hoses wont work but bending the tabs back and flipping the valve will work.
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Y'all,
I pulled my switch out and heard nothing but and air leak at the switch, so I decided to switch the hoses. They work perfect(pull out they go up with gauge lights, push in and they go down perfect)Yahoo.... The crazy thing is that I have a build manual and I plumbed it the way it said???? Oh well new switch is in a working perfect. Thanks for all of the help.
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Originally Posted by DWncchs
Vacuum pulls it both ways.
The feds require the lights to open when vacuum is lost. Earlier vehicles opened with vacuum and was a hazard when driving at night as the lights would close when vacuum was lost. This could be dangerous on a curvy road during darkness. Often when you see a Vette sitting with one light up or both it's because of a problem with the lighting vacuum system and the light(s) won't stay down.
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Originally Posted by thegazman
The feds require the lights to open when vacuum is lost. Earlier vehicles opened with vacuum and was a hazard when driving at night as the lights would close when vacuum was lost. This could be dangerous on a curvy road during darkness. Often when you see a Vette sitting with one light up or both it's because of a problem with the lighting vacuum system and the light(s) won't stay down.
Lack of vacuum on the small hose part of the system will TELL the headlights to come up....but you said when there is no vacuum the springs will pull the headlights up-They wont.
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by DWncchs
Lack of vacuum on the small hose part of the system will TELL the headlights to come up....but you said when there is no vacuum the springs will pull the headlights up-They wont.
Roger.. you are so correct and I am absolutely wrong. Thank God we have people with your knowledge on this forum to keep us straight. I made some assumptions that were incorrect. I appreciate your patience with me. You should have called me a dumb a--. Plus if I would have had enough sense to look at your profile and see your occupation maybe I would have checked my facts before making another statement. Thank you for your knowledge and all the valuable information you provide the forum members.

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Originally Posted by thegazman
Roger.. you are so correct and I am absolutely wrong. Thank God we have people with your knowledge on this forum to keep us straight. I made some assumptions that were incorrect. I appreciate your patience with me. You should have called me a dumb a--. Plus if I would have had enough sense to look at your profile and see your occupation maybe I would have checked my facts before making another statement. Thank you for your knowledge and all the valuable information you provide the forum members.

Ken
Thank You for the compliment.I really do enjoy trying to help guys with their vacuum problems.The C3 vac. system is a bit mysterious but once you jump in one with both feet most guys come away saying "that wasn't so bad" and then they go on to help others. This really is a great forum and I'm happy to be a part of it.
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