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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 09:56 PM
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Anyone know if the stock-design radiator for an 80 L-82 will be enough to cool a 406 or am I going to need a bigger radiator?
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Aluminum rad and electric fans

...and a new high amp alternator

1000HP BeCool Rad and Twin 13 in. Spal fans module
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 10:39 PM
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Would love to have one, but don't want to pay for one

What I'm wondering is if what I already have will do the job or not. The L-82's already had an electric fan.
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 10:40 PM
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I just told you, no
I bought the BeCool 700HP version.
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 11:47 PM
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A built 406 makes plenty-o-heat. Hopefully steam holes were drilled in the heads. Some say they're unnecessary but I say if GM thought them necessary to prevent hot spots in Grandma's Caprice, they're even more necessary with some compression, RPMs, and added HP.

Agree with the above, you'll need to upgrade the radiator and pump. I think a stock fan and shroud are fine.

FWIW.
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 05:21 AM
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Call Tom DeWitt at DeWitt Radiator and he will hook you up with what you need and DeWitts makes the BEST quality radiators for a Vette you can purchase.
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 05:59 AM
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I have a 450hp 406 in my 79 with a 2004r OD and my temp never sees the high side of 200F.
Iron water pump,stock rad,fanshroud and a rigid mount fan-which will be changed to a clutch and 7 blade next week.The fan is louder than my Flowmaster 40s!!
Have had no cooling issues all summer.
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If everything is in good working condition you will be fine. I cooled my 74 BB427 w/10.5 comp. w/the original 350 RAD w/ no problem
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If everything is in good working condition you will be fine. I cooled my 74 BB427 w/10.5 comp. w/the original 350 RAD w/ no problem
Well...you're in NJ and Ron is in FLORIDA!!!

More Horsepower= More heat to get rid of

I'd go w/ a Dewitt.
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I would recommend upgrading the radiator as well from my own experience, and as others have said. The more power, the more heat. My stock setup would only keep it cool for about twenty minutes, and the temps would creep up. Now I can run all day and never worry about the temps.

A radiator cost when compared to the 406 cost is a drop in the bucket, but could save a blown engine. Don't be cheap in this area for sure.
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I have a 470+HP 406 that is cooled by a stock '72 27" rad, high flow aluminum pump, and stock clutch fan. Engine temps to 200* are normal. If ambiant temp outside gets to 85+ it climbs to 210* That's too hot for aluminum heads IMHO, so....a new rad for me come spring. You should do the same to protect your investment.
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Originally Posted by Edzred72
I have a 470+HP 406 that is cooled by a stock '72 27" rad, high flow aluminum pump, and stock clutch fan. Engine temps to 200* are normal. If ambiant temp outside gets to 85+ it climbs to 210* That's too hot for aluminum heads IMHO, so....a new rad for me come spring. You should do the same to protect your investment.
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 09:20 PM
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This is what DeWitts recommended:

http://www.dewitts.com/pages/product...asp?ProdID=282

This gets a btu rating of 6158 (factory was 4948 according to them). They also have the same radiator with the two fans on the front, but since I already have the electric fan I supposedly don't need it. Should be enough?
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I would get the rad / fan combination, I don't think that stock electric fan you have will do much
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by BarryK
Call Tom DeWitt at DeWitt Radiator and he will hook you up with what you need and DeWitts makes the BEST quality radiators for a Vette you can purchase.
Not to criticise Dewitt Barry, but have you ever seen the Be Cool stuff? It`s absolutely stunning. Be Cool shows there products at the Detroit Autorama for the past several years and its unbelievably unique. If you would ever want to dress up the underhood of your Vette or anything else, Check it out before you buy anybodys. It`s show quality right out of the box and with complete bolt in systems too if you want it that way....
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Not to criticise Dewitt Barry, but have you ever seen the Be Cool stuff? It`s absolutely stunning.
Ironcross, Be-cool has a nice product line and they offer a lot more models than we do but you will pay more for a Be-cool, they don't sponsor this forum, and they offer only one model for 69-82. We offer five completely different radiators for C3, so each one is a true Direct Fit. An aluminum radiator is only as good as the core section and many companies are buying these from mexico or china, and welding on end tanks. We make our own cores, in a state of the art furnace in our building in Howell. You might be surprised to find out Be-cool doesn't actually make anything, it's a marketing company only.
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Old Sep 26, 2008 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom DeWitt
You might be surprised to find out Be-cool doesn't actually make anything, it's a marketing company only.
I dont know too much about them except from their appearance at the Autorama. And as a former Judge at that show I was aware of their products. Your statement about being a marketing company that dont make anything is yes, surprising. But really maybe not. Today you cant tell whats made here and what is not unless you have first hand knowledge....and you as a manufacturer of the same products they sell would be in a position to be aware of or know that.

I do have a suggestion since your a legitimate radiator manufacturer and make everything. How about making a stamped date code available for a extra nominal fee. Al has provision for that on his soft tops. That is unless you have already provided for that request.
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Old Sep 26, 2008 | 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Ironcross
Not to criticise Dewitt Barry, but have you ever seen the Be Cool stuff? It`s absolutely stunning. Be Cool shows there products at the Detroit Autorama for the past several years and its unbelievably unique. If you would ever want to dress up the underhood of your Vette or anything else, Check it out before you buy anybodys. It`s show quality right out of the box and with complete bolt in systems too if you want it that way....
Be Cool is top notch. Who cares about the price if it cools just as good as Dewitt and it looks so much better.
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Originally Posted by Ironcross
How about making a stamped date code available for a extra nominal fee. Al has provision for that on his soft tops. That is unless you have already provided for that request.
I'm not sure what year you are talking about but we have always offered date coded aluminum radiators and surge tanks under the GM restoration program as an offical licensee. None of the copper/brass radiators used in C3 or later had date codes.
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