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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 04:04 PM
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I have not worked with Body Rivets yet, What is the best tool and procedures to set rivets?

I am about to change the #4 body mounts on a 70 convertible, any help would be greatly appreciated. If I need to have access to the back side of the rivet, I might be SOL. The spring for the Conv hatch is in the way. Ecklers has a tool #41775, is it worth getting?

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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 04:11 PM
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Take the hatch off, and remove the springs, and use stainless 1/4 inch bolts/kep nutz, and have over with it.....I even filled the extra space of the mount with fiberglass resin after it was on the frame and bolted down.....rust THAT....damnit....stainless bolt too....

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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 04:24 PM
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Hi Buddy,
If you want to maintain an original appearance you do need to be able to get at the head end of the rivet to hold it from moving and use a setting tool to peen over the shaft end of the rivet. If you use a rivet make sure you have an appropriate length so you have enough but not too much shaft to peen and thus hold the bracket you're riveting tight.
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 04:25 PM
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You will have to remove the springs and hinges which is not a fun job, but necessary to do it right . I made a tool for my air chisel and have someone hold a metal bucking tool on the other side of the rivets. On some of the rivets on other areas of the car, you can do the riveting and hold the bucking tool yourself.
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 06:51 PM
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a counter intuitive thing about setting factory soft alumin rivits is that the dead stop dolly should be stopping the shaft already through the fiberglass hole and the hammering should be on the side with the approx 1/2" diameter flat head.

That's a poorly worded version of what came with a bag of vette rivits I have yet to use.

Makes sense after a while if you think and think about it.

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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 08:42 PM
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Once I insert the rivet thru the body and bracket(s), how short do I trim it before riveting?

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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 10:27 PM
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the rivot should come through app. the dia. of the rivot another words if the rivot is3/16 dia. then cut the rivot to protrude through the materials 3/16 in.Set the rivot first with the tool in your air chisel that fits the head of your rivot then hold the bucking bar against
the other end and hold it flat now finish it .It doesn,t take much of a hit so be easy on the trigger those rivots are soft ,at least the ones i got from zip products were.
practice on some scrap first its very easy.
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 10:03 AM
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Rivet length should be 1-1/2 times the thickness of the items it passes thru. For a proper buck the tail of the rivet will be 1-1/2 times the original diameter. ( Those are aircraft specs from the AC 43.13)
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Is it necessary to use rivits. Seems to me that the disimilar metals cause greater problems. I was thinking about stainless like mentioned in an earlier post. Is there an advantage to rivits or was it a production thing. Thanks, Jack
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This picture may help you a little when riveting the support cage on the #4 mount.

I was able to used the standard OEM style rivets for all but the upper left rivets.
There was simply no room to swing a hammer or get the air tool in there so I had to use pop rivets for those two holes.

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Hi Jack,
I don't think the different metals are an issue in this case.
I've always thought the rivets were used for speed of production and $. I would think the installers got pretty quick at working on those underbodies.
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