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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 05:02 PM
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I got my 80 project. I will be getting rid of the power steering. Do I have to change the steering box also. How bad will it be to steer leaving the power box without the power stuff?
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You don't have to change the box, but you should change the relay rod and the steering pitman arm.

Both are different on a non power steering car.

How hard will it be to steer? This will depend on the tire size but pretty hard compared to the power steering.

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The boxes are the same for PS and manaul. As WC said replace the pitman arm and centerlink, your 80 spindles may not have the dual holes either found on the earlier cars for changing the ratio.
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You don't have to change the box, but you should change the relay rod and the steering pitman arm.

Both are different on a non power steering car.

How hard will it be to steer? This will depend on the tire size but pretty hard compared to the power steering.

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Great thanks, I thought the boxes were different. I meant how hard would it be if the boxes were different and I didnt have the power to it. I know how hard a manual box is because my 67 has manual brakes and steering.
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The boxes are the same for PS and manaul. As WC said replace the pitman arm and centerlink, your 80 spindles may not have the dual holes either found on the earlier cars for changing the ratio.
I'll check that out. I have my 67 spindles set up for the quicker steering. Thanks for replying.
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Great thanks, I thought the boxes were different. I meant how hard would it be if the boxes were different and I didnt have the power to it. I know how hard a manual box is because my 67 has manual brakes and steering.
They all steer easy with the front wheels off the ground!
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They all steer easy with the front wheels off the ground!
Like this.

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The '80 has much wider tires than your '67 and will be much more difficult to steer it. But, if you are just driving in a straight line for a few seconds and need max. power, that's the way to go.
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IMHO, there are a number of reasons to go manual, including after the stock PS has tried to off you (hopefully without success as was my experience). Also, road feel is better and above parking lot speeds manual steering is no big deal. FYI, quick steering will make it even more difficult to steer at parking lot speeds, as the longer steering knuckle length of "slow" steer gives you more leverage, requiring less effort at low speeds.

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IMHO, there are a number of reasons to go manual, including after the stock PS has tried to off you (hopefully without success as was my experience). Also, road feel is better and above parking lot speeds manual steering is no big deal. FYI, quick steering will make it even more difficult to steer at parking lot speeds, as the longer steering knuckle length of "slow" steer gives you more leverage, requiring less effort at low speeds.
What would be the weight savings beetwen power and manual, if any?
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My guess is about 20-25 pounds (pump, cylinder, valve and hoses).
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The '80 has much wider tires than your '67 and will be much more difficult to steer it. But, if you are just driving in a straight line for a few seconds and need max. power, that's the way to go.
Its going to get a set of skinnies on it.
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Originally Posted by panic
What would be the weight savings beetwen power and manual, if any?
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My guess is about 20-25 pounds (pump, cylinder, valve and hoses).
Well we know what the skinny vette Panic's got is going to do now.....loose another few pounds.....

Lucky you in Italy that vette in FLORIDA you get blown away....

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