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Old Mar 8, 2009 | 05:52 PM
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This may sound stupid, but I've been a manual car guy all my life with absolutely no experience with autotransmission cars.
What happens when you put your one foot one the brake hard and rev the engine to say 5000 rpm the same time ?
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Old Mar 8, 2009 | 05:55 PM
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Nothing happens because the transmission is in neutral.
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Old Mar 8, 2009 | 06:17 PM
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If it is in drive it will not be able to rev to 5000 rpm. The converter will only allow it to rev to its stall speed. I guess if you have a 5000+ stall it might get up there.
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Old Mar 8, 2009 | 08:31 PM
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Stock converter stall speed is around 2000 rpm (+/- 500 rpm), so that's all the higher it will rev...unless you've beefed-up the engine HP. Then, the stall speed wwould be higher. What you are doing is exactly why most 'stock' automatic cars will be a bit faster than their manual tranny counterparts...a very quick launch in the power band of the engine.
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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 10:03 AM
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Its called a power brake the rear wheels will spin
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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Belgian1979vette
...What happens when you put your one foot one the brake hard and rev the engine to say 5000 rpm the same time?...
Try it.
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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 01:27 PM
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First,put the rear wheels in a small puddle of a bleach and water mix!
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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 02:40 PM
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not shure why we are trying ot get him to do an burn out here lol
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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 02:45 PM
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Might sound stupid, but if a converter will not allow an engine with the trans in drive to go over its stall speed, this means that it can apply more load on the engine than it makes it possible to rev higher.

This proves that my thinking is right and one can use a torque converter as a brake in a home made dyno.

That's all i needed to know.

Thanks

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the car will explode if you push down both pedals at the same time duh
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Originally Posted by car71
Its called a power brake the rear wheels will spin
Correct with enough power it goes to stall speed overcomes the brakes & the rear wheels spin.
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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 7T1vette
Stock converter stall speed is around 2000 rpm (+/- 500 rpm), so that's all the higher it will rev...unless you've beefed-up the engine HP. Then, the stall speed wwould be higher. What you are doing is exactly why most 'stock' automatic cars will be a bit faster than their manual tranny counterparts...a very quick launch in the power band of the engine.
Not to hijack, but I had always heard that with a good driver, just the opposite was true. I had a boss in the mid-80s that had a big Mopar book similar to the Chevy Power Guide. It showed that a 4sp car was always a bit faster than an automatic. That is also my recollection on stock Yenko Camaros. Now with me driving, an automatic will always be faster.....
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It has been a 'while' since I followed any stock car drag racing. But, most of the fastest cars were automatics (not by a dominating percentage, however). Besides 'massaging' the torque converter to get it up to the max. allowed for each engine set-up, the converter also provides some torque multiplication at take-off RPMs. That is an additional benefit over the manual boxes. I like to drive both; but at my age, an automatic is much more pleasant.
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