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Old Apr 15, 2009 | 09:40 PM
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When I had my '68 restorodded I had the shop send out the tach to be converted to electronic. Now I'm not sure where they sent it but I assume Tachman or Corvette Clocks.

My ignition is driven my a MSD 6AL box.

As they hooked it up, black to ground, green to coil negative, and red to coil positive it didn't work. I assume this is because of the nature of the MSD/CDI.

I've tried every combination of the tach output from the MSD box to the green or red wire of the tach to no avail. At this point I think I either need a MSD tach converter, or something is fried inside the tach because of how it was initially hooked up.

Can anyone shed light on this? I've got a black, green, and red wire...
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I am kind of going through this same thing right now. Here is my take on the tach, if you are using the stock style electronic guts. On the positive lug of the tach, it is a switched 12v connection. The negative lug should be to ground. The tach lug should be to your signal. Here is a picture of the way it should be connected.

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Old Apr 15, 2009 | 09:58 PM
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I have a feeling I am going to be pulling the dash out to verify what guts are in it and what is connected to what. Bah.
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When I had mine converted I used the green wire (tach lead) from the CD ignition box. The positive as said above is a 12 volt ignition source and ground. I even Td off another wire from the green wire and hooked it to my shift light. They all worked fine that way.
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Don't some boxes require the use of an amplifier?

"If you are triggering an MSD Blaster, 5,6, or 7 Series Ignition with its white wire or points terminal, you will need this Tach Adpater. This unit will correct the operation of most voltage triggered tachometers or fuel injection systems that do not work directly off the tach output terminal of the MSD Ignition Unit."

MSD #121-8910

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Originally Posted by jimvette999
"If you are triggering an MSD Blaster, 5,6, or 7 Series Ignition with its white wire or points terminal, you will need this Tach Adpater. This unit will correct the operation of most voltage triggered tachometers or fuel injection systems that do not work directly off the tach output terminal of the MSD Ignition Unit."
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Where did this quote come from? This is exactly what I'm doing, triggering my 6AL via the white fire from my Megasquirt.
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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 03:35 PM
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Jegs.... I'll PM you the link.... I guess they're not a supporting vendor.
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Does anyone recognize this module?





I've tried straight from the MSD tach out, I've tried the tach wire feeding the ECU with the MSD 8910 tach adapter, and I've tried the tach wire without the 8910 all with no luck.
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did you ever hook your red wire up to switched 12vdc? you originally said it was going to the coil + wire.. hook it to a constant 12vdc supply that switches on and off with your key switch. black to any good chassis ground and then green to the signal wire.
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Originally Posted by mikey
did you ever hook your red wire up to switched 12vdc? you originally said it was going to the coil + wire.. hook it to a constant 12vdc supply that switches on and off with your key switch. black to any good chassis ground and then green to the signal wire.
Yep I definitely did. I tried every variation, but the main one was with the red connected to 12V switched. Incidentally the wires go to terminals on the PCB marked:

G - Black
I - Red
S - Green

So obviously black and red are power and ground and green is signal but I don't understand what type of signal this module is expecting.
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My MSD 6A runs my '76 Tach which I changed to in my '73 gos direct from the MSD tach output, no filters. Make me wonder that some thing is fried.
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Originally Posted by ddn
When I had my '68 restorodded I had the shop send out the tach to be converted to electronic. Now I'm not sure where they sent it but I assume Tachman or Corvette Clocks.

My ignition is driven my a MSD 6AL box.

As they hooked it up, black to ground, green to coil negative, and red to coil positive it didn't work. I assume this is because of the nature of the MSD/CDI.

I've tried every combination of the tach output from the MSD box to the green or red wire of the tach to no avail. At this point I think I either need a MSD tach converter, or something is fried inside the tach because of how it was initially hooked up.
Box supplies several hundred volts to coil primary; hence required use box tach out to drive tach. I understand you've tried to correct wiring. I too suspect tach was&is damaged by improper wiring. I dunno who actually fired the fatal shot ... 'though I'm leaning towards caning rodshop "experts".
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does the tach work at all? Did it ever work? What is it doing now if anything. I'm in the middle of upgrading my 72 with a elect tach out of a 75 and as I understand it you should be able to test the tach by disconnecting the green wire and then connecting the pos and negative and the tach should jump and then zero out. Have you tried that and seen what the tach does?

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Originally Posted by Sully1882
does the tach work at all? Did it ever work? What is it doing now if anything. I'm in the middle of upgrading my 72 with a elect tach out of a 75 and as I understand it you should be able to test the tach by disconnecting the green wire and then connecting the pos and negative and the tach should jump and then zero out. Have you tried that and seen what the tach does?
I'll try that. The tach has never worked that I know of but it's all part of a restorod so that doesn't say much. I think Corvette Clocks by Roger did the conversion but I'm not sure.
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