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I have a '75 C3 that's being rebuilt at the moment and I also have a bullet proof Dart 400 engine with 6-71 supercharger that will be going in it. Have any of you guys done this conversion already, if so could I ask what problems you encountered with it. I want to try and get it right as I go along Thanks for your help, Nick
I have a '75 C3 that's being rebuilt at the moment and I also have a bullet proof Dart 400 engine with 6-71 supercharger that will be going in it. Have any of you guys done this conversion already, if so could I ask what problems you encountered with it. I want to try and get it right as I go along Thanks for your help, Nick
If the engine is 'bullet proof' (I assume it has forged crank, rods, and pistons with a suitable compression ratio for the boost?) and fed by a 6/71 blower then the rest of your drivetrain is going to suffer......What trans are you running and has the rear-end been beefed up?
In terms of actually installing the thing you are going to need a big hole cut in the hood and a good cooling system, other than that it should drop right in.
Last edited by cosmicvette; Apr 24, 2009 at 11:23 AM.
This is a new computer,and don't know where the pics are,but had a 74 w/383,671,dual 600 eddys,and nitrous,TCI,and 9".The problem was cooling the engine,and running the plumbing for the stock radiator to mount up to the intake plate to flow the cooling.Besides that.....it was scary fast!
Thanks guys, the engine has forged crank, rods, pistons, roller rockers, Dart HP ally heads 8.0-1 Cr, 6-71 with twin holley 600s and is being bench tested as we speak. I'm expecting around 500bhp to 550bhp.The Gearbox (TH400) has been uprated to 800bhp. Torque converter?...havent got a clue which one to use... any advice? As for the rest, well that's where I need your help too. I've been told the diff can take 600, but I'm not convinced. I know the axle shafts are a weak spot as are the prop(drive) shaft and UJs. Thanks for the advice about radiator/heating, I had a feeling that was going to be another headache area. The car is being built for street use only.
Thanks Nick
This is a new computer,and don't know where the pics are,but had a 74 w/383,671,dual 600 eddys,and nitrous,TCI,and 9".The problem was cooling the engine,and running the plumbing for the stock radiator to mount up to the intake plate to flow the cooling.Besides that.....it was scary fast!
Ps. Would love to see the pictures and spec if you can find them. That's what I like to hear....."Scary Fast"
Cheers Nick
Hi, in UK we use this slang term to describe things that are built to be unbreakable. Sorry for the confusion Guessing it might mean something different where you are?
Cheers Nick
Hi, in UK we use this slang term to describe things that are built to be unbreakable. Sorry for the confusion Guessing it might mean something different where you are?
Cheers Nick
It means the same thing here, Nick.
I cant speak for Manuel, but some of us have just seen too many good parts break to think that anything is bulletproof.
It means the same thing here, Nick.
I cant speak for Manuel, but some of us have just seen too many good parts break to think that anything is bulletproof.
I absolutely agree with you there, never had anything that comes close to being bullet proof. The best we can do is build it to the highest spec and keep our fingers crossed! Something usually goes eventually.
Cheers Nick
Your open to more problems than you could imagine. Sounds great and good bragging rights at cruise nights but street use would be a joke. A substantial blower drive with a minimum 2 inch belts with water pump, water hoses, charging system parts {alternator with belts to drive it}. Where can you attach all the necessary parts required for street use...It would be apart more that together....
Your open to more problems than you could imagine. Sounds great and good bragging rights at cruise nights but street use would be a joke. A substantial blower drive with a minimum 2 inch belts with water pump, water hoses, charging system parts {alternator with belts to drive it}. Where can you attach all the necessary parts required for street use...It would be apart more that together....
Hi, thanks. I can see where you're coming from, it will be a challenge to get it all in. That said I have fitted similar setups to much smaller UK cars before. The blower drive doesn't actually affect the position of the water pump, or even the alternator in some cases.P/S pump may be a problem. There are many 'blown' street vettes around....at least 3 here in the UK to my knowledge and I'm guessing a whole lot more of them in the USA. As the guys are saying, it's the other stuff that's the main problem, ie rads, drive chain etc., which is why I was asking for their help and advice. Provided the engine is properly built to handle power outputs & modifications etc and provided it is set up properly, there is no reason for it to be 'apart' more than any other. Blowers can be fitted to standard non modified engines with suitable compression quite sucessfully and reliably without the need for even 4-bolt mains, forged crank, rods pistons etc. I'm not quite sure what you mean when you say street use would be a joke, so I can't reply to that point. Blowers are docile until they start providing boost which is when you floor the pedal, so normal driving shouldn't be a problem. Visibility could be though. Thanks Nick
I have seen plenty of people on here with 6/71's setup and still running their accessories (although most people serious enough to have a 6/71 don't usually have A/C anymore, but plenty with the stock water, alt and ps setup.
If you have thermo fans installed on a C3 (instead of the big original fan and shroud there is a MASSIVE amount of room in front of the motor) the only problem I have seen in a couple of installs is that people have had to take a notch out of the crossmember and weld in a patch plate to give enough clearance to the crank mounted blower pulley.
A 6/71 can be 'streetable', but my question is what gears are you running in your rear-end? With the good ole TH400 and a drag racing set of gears a blown car is going to suck down the gas, that would probably be the biggest concern on the street (or more precisely on the highway).
I have seen plenty of people on here with 6/71's setup and still running their accessories (although most people serious enough to have a 6/71 don't usually have A/C anymore, but plenty with the stock water, alt and ps setup.
If you have thermo fans installed on a C3 (instead of the big original fan and shroud there is a MASSIVE amount of room in front of the motor) the only problem I have seen in a couple of installs is that people have had to take a notch out of the crossmember and weld in a patch plate to give enough clearance to the crank mounted blower pulley.
A 6/71 can be 'streetable', but my question is what gears are you running in your rear-end? With the good ole TH400 and a drag racing set of gears a blown car is going to suck down the gas, that would probably be the biggest concern on the street (or more precisely on the highway).
That's a very interesting point you make about the clearance for the Crank pulley and wasn't one I was expecting, thanks for pointing it out. A/C won't be going back, or at least I'm not planning on putting it back, and plans are for 2 electric fans with manual overide. Rear gears are 4.11 at the moment although I open to suggestions on that one. The car will only be used at w/e and meets, so not overly concerned with the MPG, which I guess will be in low single figures
Fuel economy wasn't part of my build criteria!
Thanks, Nick
I have a '75 C3 that's being rebuilt at the moment and I also have a bullet proof Dart 400 engine with 6-71 supercharger that will be going in it. Have any of you guys done this conversion already, if so could I ask what problems you encountered with it. I want to try and get it right as I go along Thanks for your help, Nick
I've been researching the same mod for my 79 but haven't got beyond the basic parts list. Please keep us posted of your progress and good luck.
Hi marshrat99, Many thanks. If you haven't bought a 'Blower' yet it might be worthwhile looking at the new types. They are a lot more efficient and much more compact than mine. Some have manifolds suitable to use with 'Vortec' heads too. If like me you want the retro look of the mighty 6-71 then go for it. The engine doesn't have to be high performance either. you can go with a stock one provided the compression is low enough. Engine is being Dyno'd at the mo. Can send you the spec n photo if wanted. Cheers Nick
Last edited by 58impala; Apr 25, 2009 at 08:57 AM.
One main thing that you will not like with a 671 is that it will be hard to see when you drive,the blower sticks up pretty high and abstrucks most all your view.I went with the smaller street blower ,weiand,because of the this problem,heres a pic of my engine,i will be putting it in today.
Im hoping to get 600 hp,You dont need a big blower to get good hp numbers,but the bigger ones will produce bigger numbers .I also have nos setup too,havent decided on it yet.
Last edited by Billysvette; Apr 25, 2009 at 09:46 AM.
One main thing that you will not like with a 671 is that it will be hard to see when you drive,the blower sticks up pretty high and obstructs most all your view.I went with the smaller street blower ,weiand,because of the this problem,here's a pic of my engine,i will be putting it in today.
I'm hoping to get 600 hp,You don't need a big blower to get good hp numbers,but the bigger ones will produce bigger numbers .I also have nos setup too,haven't decided on it yet.
Very nice setup, is that a 177 or 144/142 weiand blower? I have been eying off the 144 weiand blower for a long long time, but have had other things higher up on the list to do on the car before I get to that.
Please let us know what the difference is like, were you just running the standard engine before this one?