Just picked up a used big block, seller says it's a 502, but I have my doubts. Anyone know how to tell before I get around to tearing it down? Block casting #12559110

 

It looks like it might be a Gen VII 496 - definately not a 502 though. It looks like (a bit hard to tell) there's a pipe running between the heads on the front of the block which is unique to the Gen VII series. A 502 was never a production engine. An easy way to ID a 501 is it will have this cast into the side of the block just below the deck:



If yours is a Gen 7 496 they are a tall deck engine. There's a guy who did one in a vette a while back with some sucess. But it takes some work.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c3-t...n-anybody.html

http://www.digitalcorvettes.com/foru...d.php?t=122088

 

maybe this will help

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Chevy 498 Vortec crate engine
Chevrolet 498 Vortec crate engine, Block# 12559110, dated Ja...

 

Chev Big Block V8 Engine Casting Numbers

Big Block Chevrolet Engines Covered - (By cubic inch displacement)
366 - 396 - 402 - 427 - 454 - 502
(Engine Block and Cylinder Head)

Chevy Big Block V8 Engine Block Casting Numbers

CASTING#.....SIZE...YEAR...MAIN CAP BOLTS....NOTES

340220.....427T......68-85...4-bolt
345014.....454.......70-86...
346236.....454.......75-76...2-bolt
359070.....454.......70-90...
361959.....454.......73-90...2 or 4 bolt
364776.....427T......68-85...4-bolt
364779.....366T......68-90...4-bolt
399204.....509.......70-71...4-bolt, Alum., CanAm, 4.5" bores, Cylinder liners
399289.....454.......73-79
399293.....366T......77-78...4-bolt
473478.....427T......77-90...4-bolt
3782870....427T......68-76...4-bolt
3824553....366T......66-67...4-bolt
3855961....396.......65-66...2 or 4 bolt
3855961....427.......66......2-bolt
3855962....396.......65-66...4-bolt
3855977....366T......66-73...4-bolt
3869942....427.......66-67...2 or 4 bolt
3902406....396.......67......2 or 4 bolt
3904351....427.......67......2 or 4 bolt
3904354....366T......66-76...4-bolt
3916319....366T......68......4-bolt
3916321....427.......68......2 or 4 bolt
3916323....396.......68......2 or 4 bolt
3925521....427T......68-85...4-bolt
3935439....427.......68-69...2 or 4 bolt
3935440....396.......68-69...2 or 4 bolt
3937724....366T......68-85...4-bolt
3937726....427T......68-84...4-bolt
3946052....427.......69......4-bolt, Alum. ZL-1, Mark IV
3946053....427.......97......4-bolt, Alum. ZL-1, 2nd version, Mark IV
3955270....427.......69......2 or 4 bolt
3955272....396.......69......2 or 4 bolt
3955274....366T......68-85...4-bolt
3955276....427T......68-73...4-bolt
3963512....427.......69......2 or 4 bolt
3963512....454.......70-76...2 or 4 bolt
3969852....366T......68-84...4-bolt
3969854....396.......69......2 or 4 bolt
3969854....402.......70-72...2 or 4 bolt
3969858....427T......68-84...4-bolt
3999289....454.......72-79...2 or 4 bolt, some "CE" replacement blocks had four bolt main caps
3999290....396.......68-69...2 or 4 bolt, Truck
3999290....402.......70-72...2 or 4 bolt, Truck
3999290....402.......72......2 or 4 bolt, Passenger
3999293....366T......68-90...4-bolt
3999294....427T......68-84...4-bolt
10051107...454...............4-bolt, Bowtie, MkIV, 9.8" deck, siamesed cylinder barrels, 4.25" semi-finished bores, can be bored to 4.50"
10069282...366T......90-91...4-bolt, Mark IV, Tall deck
10069284...427T..............4-bolt, Mark IV, Tall deck
10069286...454.......90-91...4-bolt, Mark IV, Short deck
10114182...454.......91-up...4-bolt, Gen.V
10114183...366T......91-up...4-bolt, Gen.V
10114184...427T......91-up...4-bolt, Gen.V
10134366...454T..............4-bolt, Bowtie, Gen.V, Tall deck
10185050...454...............4-bolt, Bowtie, Gen.V, Short deck
10237297...454.......96-up...4-bolt, Vortec 7400", "L-29" Gen.VI
10237300...502.......96-up...4-bolt, Gen.VI, 4.466" bore
12550312...427T......96-up...4-bolt, Gen.VI, 4.250" bore, fuel pump boss, clutch linkage pivot boss
12550313...454.......91-up...4-bolt, Gen.V crate motor, Gen. VI 4.25" bare block, fuel pump boss
12556110...496.......01-up...4-bolt, Gen.VII 8.1L, "Vortec 8100", Truck
12561357...454.......96-up...4-bolt, Gen.VI
12561358...502...............4-bolt, Gen. VI
14015443...454.......87-90...2 or 4-bolt, Mark IV, Truck, Motorhome
14015445...454.......78-90...2 or 4 bolt
14044807...454T..............4-bolt, Bowtie, MkIV, CNC prep, Tall deck, 4.25" bore or 4.495" bores
14096859...502...............4-bolt, Gen.V, HO
24502504...454...............4-bolt, Bowtie, Gen.V, Race prep, 9.8 "short" deck height
24502506...454T..............4-bolt, Bowtie, Gen.V, Race prep, 10.2 "tall" deck height
24502572.....................4-bolt, 4.5" bore Olds DRCE 2, 9.5" deck height
25534402.....................4-bolt, 4.590" bore Olds DRCE 3, 9.25" deck height


T = Tall deck, 10.2" deck height

1991 and later Gen.V, VI and VII production BBC motors have one-piece rear main crank seals.




Chevy Big Block V8 Cylinder Head Casting Numbers

CASTING#.....YEAR...PORT TYPE.....ENGINE SIZE

330864.....68-84...oval...OPEN...396, 402, 366T, 427T, 454 Truck
330865.....68-84...oval...OPEN...396, 402, 366T, 427T, 454 Truck
330866.....68-78...oval...OPEN...366T, 427T
330867.....68-73...oval...OPEN...427T
336765.....68-78...oval...OPEN...427T
336768.....73-76...oval...OPEN...427T
336781.....73-85...oval...OPEN...454, 118cc chamber, 256/114cc ports
343771.....68-86...oval...OPEN...366T, 427T, 454
343772.....68-86...oval...OPEN...366T, 427T, 454
343783.....70-76...oval...OPEN...454 Truck
346236.....75-87...oval...OPEN...454, 120cc chamber, 225/116cc ports
352625.....70-76...oval...OPEN...454 Truck
353049.....73-84...oval...OPEN...454, 122cc chamber, 255/119cc ports
366765.....74-78...oval...OPEN...427T
473328.....68-69...oval...OPEN...366T
3856206....65-66...oval..CLOSED..396, 97cc chamber
3856208....65......rect..CLOSED..396/425hp, 109cc chamber 396/375hp "Z-16" Chevelle
3856213....66-82...oval..CLOSED..366T, 427T
3856260....68......oval..CLOSED..396 Truck
3872702....65-66...oval..CLOSED..396, 427, 98cc chamber
3873858....65-67...rect..CLOSED..396, 427, 109cc chamber
3876875....77-85...oval...OPEN...427T
3904390....67......oval..CLOSED..396, 427, 98cc chamber
3904391....67......rect..CLOSED..396, 427, 107cc chamber
3904392....67......rect..CLOSED..427, Aluminum, L88, L89, 107cc chamber
3904393....68-76...oval...OPEN...366T
3908952....67......oval...OPEN...427, "M.Truck", Marine
3909802....67......oval..CLOSED..396, 427, 101cc chamber
3917215....67-68...oval..CLOSED..396, 427, 101cc chamber
3917219....68-85...oval...OPEN...366T, 427T
3919840....67-69...rect..CLOSED..396, 427, 107cc chamber
3919842....68-69...rect..CLOSED..396, 427, Aluminum L88, L89, 107cc chamber
3931063....68-69...oval..CLOSED..396, 402, 427, 101cc chamber
3933148....69-84...oval...OPEN...'69 396/265hp, 366T, 427T, 112cc chamber
3933149....68-76...oval...OPEN...427T, 122cc chamber
3935401....68-76...oval...OPEN...427T
3946074....69&71...rect...OPEN...'69 427 L88, ZL1, Aluminum, 118cc chamber '71 454 LS6, "round exhaust port"
3964290....69-70...oval..CLOSED..396, 402, 427, 454, 101cc chamber Large or small hex spark plugs used
3964291....69-70...rect..CLOSED..396, 402, 427, 454, 109cc chamber Large or small hex spark plugs used
3965198....68-69...oval..CLOSED..396 Truck
3975950....68-70...oval...OPEN...396, 402 Truck, 366T, 427T
3986133....68-85...oval...OPEN...366T, 427T, 454 Truck
3986135....69-73...oval...OPEN...366T, 427T
3986136....68-84...oval...OPEN...366T, 427T, 454 Truck
3993820....71......oval...OPEN...402, 113cc chamber, 255/114 ports
3993820....71-84...oval...OPEN...454 Passenger and Trucks, 113cc chamber, 255/114 ports
3994026....71......rect...OPEN...454 LS6, 118cc chamber
3999241....72......oval...OPEN...402, 454, 113cc chamber

6272292....70-78...oval...OPEN...402, 454
6272990....70-up...rect...OPEN...454 service replacement, used on some MKIV crate engines, 118cc chamber
10045427...........rect..........Pontiac/Chevy Aluminum, 91cc chamber Large Port, race
10049875...........rect..........Pontiac/Chevy Aluminum Small port, race
10051128...........rect..........Bowtie, Aluminum 72cc chambers Symmetrical ports
10051129...........rect..........Bowtie, Aluminum "raw" casting, Symmetrical ports
10052902...........oval...OPEN...MkIV, 427T
10101140...91-up...oval..CLOSED..Gen.V 366T, 427T
10114156...91-up...oval...OPEN...Gen.V & VI 454, 118cc chamber
10141279...96-up...oval..CLOSED.."Vortec 7400", 100cc chambers
10487052...77-90...oval...OPEN...366T
12363391...96-up...oval...OPEN...Bowtie, Aluminum, Signature Series, fits MKIV, Gen.V, Gen.VI, 110cc chamber
12363401...96-up...rect...OPEN...Bowtie, Aluminum, Signature Series, fits MKIV, Gen.V, Gen.VI, 118cc chamber
12558162...01-up...oval..CLOSED..Gen.VII,"Vortec 8100", 8.1L, 496, truck
12560241...98-up...oval..CLOSED.."Vortec 7400", 100cc chambers
12562932...91-95...oval...OPEN...Gen.V, truck crate motor, 118cc chambers
12562934...00-up...rect...OPEN...Gen.VI 502 Marine 14011077...69-up...rect...OPEN...Aluminum, fits MKIV, "C-port" 118cc chamber, also sold as a "solid" head
14044861...84-96...rect..........Bowtie, Aluminum, MkIV, "raised runners", 1st design, 105cc chamber
14044861...96-up...rect..........Bowtie, Aluminum, Signature Series, fits MKIV, Gen.V, Gen.VI "raised runners", 2nd design, 115cc chamber
14044861...84-96...rect..........Bowtie, Aluminum, MkIV "raw" casting of "861" MKIV 1st design
14081045...78-87...oval...OPEN...454
14081052...85-87...oval...OPEN...366T, 427T, 454 Truck, Marked "HiPerf"
14092359...86-90...oval...OPEN...366T, 427T, Marked "HiPerf"
14092360...86-90...oval...OPEN...454 Truck, "peanut" round ports
14096188...70-71...rect...OPEN...454 service replacement, also used on later Mark IV LS-6, LS-7 and 454 HO crate motors, 116cc chamber
14097088...91-up...rect...OPEN...Gen.V 454/502 HO, 118cc chamber
24502585...97......rect..........Olds/Chevy, DRCE 2, Pro Stock aluminum, for blocks w/4.900" bore spacing
25534404...04......rect..........Olds/Chevy, DRCE 3, Pro Stock, aluminum, for blocks with 4.900" bore spacing

T = Tall deck



If you are not living on the edge, you're taking too much room!

 

Hope that chart above helped here are the links I found the info on. don't mean to hijack the post, but does anyone know what the difference is between these two motors?
this is all I can find from these two sites.

10237300...502.......96-up...4-bolt, Gen.VI, 4.466" bore
http://www.chevcarclubvic.org.au/tec...ng_numbers.htm

10237292...502...... Cast iron - Four bolt main
http://www.s-series.org/htm/tech/GMP...ts/027-033.pdf

 

10237300...502.......96-up...4-bolt, Gen.VI, 4.466" bore

 

I guess you are trying to be funny or maybe I should have been more specific. Are they both the same or is the other engines specs different. If so what is it and what does the difference mean for application in simple terms. What would the pros and cons be for each?
thanks

 

I just read 69Myway's thread and I'm exploring possibilities. The fact is I'm an old school small block guy, so I've got a lot of learning to do. But the devil hates a coward. Glad I picked it up cheap
(I think I have a 496)

 

Looks like you have a 496 truck "tall" block. That's important when your looking for heads, intake and I believe the pistons are different too...

 

yes it does.... looks like I have a Gen. VII 496,



let the fun begin