I kind of like driving a sleeper, actually. The '82 wasn't known for its spriteliness.

In a memorable stoplight sprint a few years ago, I wound up my engine in the first couple of gears and stayed neck and neck with the guy driving some kind of Nissan ZX. Then, at about the torque peak (3600ish RPM) in 2nd, I floored it. The exhaust note increased seriously with the instantaneous throttle response of the TPI and my car fishtailed a little as the telephone poles turned to streaks and I went to warp 9. When he caught up to me at the next traffic light his eyes were wide. All he could say was "Wow." :D

-Noel


[Modified by Noel Carboni, 9:11 PM 3/8/2002]

 

Stopped at a light in my '02 Formula one night, a rice-mobile full of teens pulls up next to me. Out of the corner of my eye, I see the the passenger eyeing my car, as he rolls down his window and points to my front tire. I humor him by turning down the blasting music and rolling down my window. He again points to my front tire and yells out, "hey man... do a burn out". :lol: :lol:
I chuckel as I explain, "rear wheel horsepower son.. real horsepower". Of coarse, when the light turned green...well.. lets just say they got quite a show!! I got a major nod and a big thumbs up from the whole crew at the next light. Those kind of ricers I can tollerate. It's the one's with attitude that need to be taught a lesson. :D :D :D :D :D

 

The ones who actually modify their cars wouldn't be called ricers, they are hot rodders just like us. Its the ones who just put on a few stickers and a fart pipe and then try to race us that iritate us.

 

Aaron:
I like the new signature LOL :lol:.

Honestly, I've been hanging around some of the import guys lately and enjoy talking to them. I enjoy talking to anyone who is interested in cars and engines. As long as someone respects my car, I will always respect theirs.

 

There is a guy with a Neon that lives in my complex. He originally had it really riced out but has removed a lot of the crap stickers and that hideous wing. He is considering getting a new wing before he paints the car but I think I have him talked out of it. He actually does all (or most) of the work himself and he helps me work on the vette. He's a real nice guy and runs close to what I'm running, but not too close that I'm worried (yet). ;) I too have seen some of the obnoxious ones, but this guy and his friends are all really cool. No attitudes and they love american muscle too. They just chose 4-cylinders for some reason. I just don't like the ones that are all show and no go. Not that I have room to talk; I have a slow vette. :cry

 

My son owns a souped up Neon, and is what you consider a ricer. He is 17 years old and saved up to buy this car working many hours part time after school. He belongs to a club along with other, what you call ricers. I do not consider him or his freinds ricers!!! And I object to all of you who classify them as jerks. When you were 17, were you able to afford a classic Vette? I am proud my son is as interested in cars as I am. He loves my Vette, but he is realistic. He has goals, such as going to college when he gets out of high school. Many of these, what you call ricers, will eventually earn enough money to afford a Vette, but for now, at least they have a love for cars, and working with them. :mad

 

This is an important point.

In my book - Ricers are not owners of 12 sec. hondas. Those guys who get real speed and power using the best of technology and hot rodding - mixed with a healthy dose of craftsmanship deserve all the respect that we expect in our own cars......

Ricers or Rice-boys are different. They generally have only minimal high performance modifications done to their car, and then they go swaggering about talking poopiee about other cars (mostly american, camaros and mustangs are popular targets). their cars generally have a minimal amount of power enhancing parts, usually limited to a Fart pipe and a cold air intake. They almost always have very unattractive ground effects packages including wings that would give a small plane "Airfoil Envy". Rice-boys believe wings actually will increase their speed and allow them to corner faster - few actually know that wings do create downforce, but the trade off is increased drag.

Most riceboys will not listen to older hot rodders - the ones that do are almost certainly NOT rice boys IMO but are hot rodders, different from us (collectivly) only in thier taste for cars.

The ones I ignore are the Rice boys - not the real hot rodders.

vettepower:

I agree, by your description i would not describe your son as a Ricer (although I would have to see his car :jester ) the Ricers I think that most of us despise are those that strut around, talking poopiee, like honda invented performance cars, the ones that disrespect the american cars for what they are - obviously your son is not a person like this - some of his friends in his club MAY be but thats different.


[Modified by fauxrs, 5:29 PM 3/8/2002]

 

Thanks Fauxrs!! I am glad you know the difference. :cheers:

 

If on the rare occasion one was to meet up with a Turbo Miata it might be best to wave and keep clear.Something about the possibility of up to 400 rear wheel HP in a 2200lb car puts them in a very good position for a win.Most are not set on kill like that but many 250+ RWP cars are out there now.

Ever wonder what a nice little "one owner" some of those cars would be to buy used? Most Hondas I have seen get run very hard needlessly.No! A better word would be abused!

On the street I tend to ignore them.My Son tends to put them in a position of getting their car filled with tire smoke at a stoplite when they have been behind him tailgating him.

 

I treat them like all car guys -

- knowledgeable owners with well built cars are friends.

- those without enough sense to build their cars right (or leave them stock - i.e. sticker/wing-less) or are so lacking in knowledge of the workings of an internal combustion engine they can't carry on a conversation - I just leave them to their little dream world where they are the kings of the street - and let them make their noise and zoom on down the road -

 

I think if it runs on soy sauce, its a rice burner :D . To me, any car that is a windy inline four cylinder is a rice burner. Along with the rest of the japanese cars. The drivers of these cars are all ricers imo, but they are not all the same. I will respect ANY 12 second CAR, but the drivers are all individuals, if they are dipshi*s, then I treat them like it, if their car is slow, it is nothing to respect or admire (even a vette in my eyes). Some cars I find really sweet looking, and i like those cars, like the vettes, lots of old mucsle, 3000GT, Supra... but i dont respect them unless they perform, and i always say no matter how ugly the car is, hey, that guy obviously likes it and had the money to do it, so to to each his own. :)

 

Hmmm . . . I guess that means you'd have a hard time respecting the Offenhauser 4 and it's 27 Indy 500 wins, eh? :lol:

 

So it's safe to say that you don't like most of the mid 70's to early 90's vettes, not to mention a lot of the early vettes and many others. Is that right?

 

Anyone into cars is okay by me. And when I start to get irritated with the "stylin' and profilin'" (i.e. loud music, Chicago lean, seat so far back his head's nearly in the trunk), I think back to what a douchebag I was when I was in high school, and I forget about it.

The cool thing about ricers, is that they are more interested in cars than shooting people, or stealing, or whatever else turns our stomachs. So if they want to put a six foot wing on the back of an 80hp POS, I say "more power to them." And I've always thought farts were the funniest thing around, so if they want to run fart pipes, I think it's great.

I'm easily entertained.

 

Hmm, what do I do with ricers. Well I haven't had any of them really look at me while I'm driving my car (though I only just got it) so I don't know. As a passenger or if I see them on the street and we're not headed in the same direction I just point and laugh. Though as it has been stated before, there are some imported cars which really can't be classified as "rice" because they have legitimate go-fast parts bolted on. That is just their car of choice, or maybe it's the only car they could afford at the time. I like American Muscle, always have, always will. Sure the Vipers are sales competetion to the Corvette, but if it came down to a Viper or a Supra, I'd cheer on the Viper.
On a non-rice issue, my father and brother were in my step-mom's '92 Competetion Yellow coupe on the freeway when a Z3 roadster caught up with them. My dad had some fun with that little Z3 because when it would catch up, my dad would romp on the throttle and gain another 7 to 8 car lengths. When the Z3 would spend all the time and energy to get up to the door again, he'd step on the loud pedal and regain the distance. How much was a new Z3 in '99? My step-mom got a deal on her Vette and paid only $28K because it was "used" with 17 miles from getting flogged at the America's Cup down in San Diego. If I was the Z3 driver and I knew that I'd surely ditch the Bimmer and go searching for a Vette.