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Old Mar 23, 2010 | 06:53 PM
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454 with A/C

Should I install the radiator, a/c condenser, and fan shroud before I install the engine, or after?

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Old Mar 23, 2010 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by fastcw
454 with A/C

Should I install the radiator, a/c condenser, and fan shroud before I install the engine, or after?

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OH HELL NO...... Engine first, all else after... If you are putting the motor/tranny in together the balancer will barely clear the core support as it is..... No crank pulley on it. Tight fit for sure...
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ABSOLUTELY, engine first!!!!!
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Don't install the fan on the engine. Leave it for last. That way, you won't 'bung-up' the radiator when you go to install it.
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by fastcw
454 with A/C

Should I install the radiator, a/c condenser, and fan shroud before I install the engine, or after?
Is your radiator core support still in the car? If it is, you won't really change the amount of clearance you have available for dropping in the motor no matter when you put the condensor back in - it sits in front of the core support. If the core support is out already, leave it all out until after that motor is sitting between the frame rails again... Not asked, but those core supports do get rusty and weak and they are part of the support for the front clip of the car. Finding tons of rust on my core support a week ago, I took mine out and will replace it when I install a new aluminum direct-fit radiator - and a Vintage Air Sure Fit Gen-IV a/c system!
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 07:08 PM
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. Finding tons of rust on my core support a week ago, I took mine out and will replace it when I install a new aluminum direct-fit radiator!
New core supports are still available...at least for my 70.
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by fastcw
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Should I install the radiator, a/c condenser, and fan shroud before I install the engine, or after?

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After. Especially if you have the transmission already attached. Sounds like the condenser is already out so you really should take the core support out and check it over. Mine looked OK but with the condenser out of the way I could see some minor rust at the bottom of the radiator support on my 72 454 automatic air car.



Took it out to patch and paint. Car has been on jackstands inside the garage since 1983. There's no frame rust and two small holes in the birdcage so I wasn't expecting big problems. Tapped the surface rust with a screwdriver and it just fell apart.


There's nothing left but paint and rust (and not a lot of paint).
It's too far gone to cut and patch but luckily a reproduction radiator support is available from all the major outlets ($320-$350 plus shipping).
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 08:23 AM
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Assuming your front clip is supported by the front bumper that is still attached, you can remove the radiator core support. If not, you will have to support the front clip. The engine and tranny are best to go in as a unit. You can have the water pump, pulley and belt to the crankshaft on, but leave the rest of the accessories off for now. Assemble your radiator to the core support with the proper seals, then the fan shroud with the proper seals. You have to think in terms of assembled units...the factory did. You can do a much better job with this assembly on the bench or floor...believe me. The entire radiator package can then be installed in the car in just minutes. You might even be able to mount your A/C condensor to the package before installing, but I don't know for sure.
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Mucking around with a BB and the it's factory radiator shroud can be a real problem. A solution is to get an aluminum radiator and electric fan assembly. (For instance Dewitts). This assembly is a lot easier to work with, cools better, and also gets rid of the mechanical fan. With electric fans, you can work on your engine with the engine running and don't have to worry about being maimed by the mechanical fan. Downside is the close to $1000 for the Dewitts package. I have an aluminum radiator and electric fans on my 68 SB (BeCool). BeCool is just fine (about the same price), but for my BB I thought I'd go DeWitts since they get a lot of favorable comments on the forum.

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